Talk:Waugoshance Light

Infobox and an article

All we're missing here now is (smile) an infobox (preferably a complete one) -- see, e.g., Cheboygan Crib Light or Sturgeon Point Light -- and a meaningful article. I've put together most of the credible on line sources, which contain the substance for an article. Anyone who chooses to help out would be doing a service. Best to you. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 19:34, 29 June 2008 (UTC) Stan

Done. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 20:21, 14 September 2009 (UTC) Stan

Height and focal plane

FWIW, I note that the National Park Service Inventory gives it a 76 foot height, as does the text on Waugoshance at Terry Pepper. However, the Terry Pepper databases (which are fully documented and referenced) have different figures, which is what I put in the infobox. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 03:35, 30 June 2008 (UTC) Stan

Etymology

What is the etymology of the name "Waugoshance"? Badagnani (talk) 22:23, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

'Wobbleshanks'? Or orgin of name uncertain? Of silliness? Or a bastardized Indian word? See [Edwards, Jack, "A Nautical Gravestone", Great Lakes Cruiser Magazine (October, 1994) Lighthouse Digest. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 23:58, 4 August 2008 (UTC) Stan

Gray's Reef

I note that the wiki link goes to the wrong Gray's Reef. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 00:03, 5 August 2008 (UTC) Stan

Iron vs. Steel plating (what is boiler plate?)

Both Terry Pepper and the USCG site say that the light is encased in iron plate. From Terry Pepper, "In order to effect the most nearly permanent repair possible with the technology available, the decision was made encase the entire structure in 3/8" thick boiler plate, riveted together, and leaving sufficient space between the iron and the masonry for filling with a layer of concrete. Bids were let for the contract on July 1, 1883, Buhl Iron Works Company of Detroit was the lowest bidder at $23,000, and was thus awarded the contract for the work. " From the USCG "Construction Materials: BRICK ENCASED W/IRON PLATE Tower Shape: CONICAL (ENCASED IN IRON IN 1883)" Which source is saying that the material is steel? Asher196 (talk) 14:35, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Asher

I am going to post your note and my replace on the talk page of Waugoshance Light. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 15:45, 5 August 2008 (UTC) Stan

You make a good point. There is clearly a split in the various sources.

The National Park Inventory says "Iron", too.

However, these two say steel:

• Edwards, Jack, "A Nautical Gravestone", Great Lakes Cruiser Magazine (October, 1994) Lighthouse Digest.
• Waugoshance Lighthouse Preservation Society.

}I note that Big Sable Point Light, Little Sable Point, New Presque Isle Light and Spectacle Reef Light, which are roughly contemporary, had steel, too. (I think). Additionally, in the time frame the growth of the iron and steel industry was a big part of the context in which this all occurred.

Of course, Terry Pepper is generally so meticulous and better researched than most other sources, so perhaps we should rely on him. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 15:45, 5 August 2008 (UTC) Stan

When I typed in Boilerplate into Wikipedia, it said it "may refer to: * Boilerplate, a relatively thick sheet of high quality steel, suitable for building boilers" Looking at the Boiler article, however, does not seem to resolve the issue. In includes the following quote: "For much of the Victorian "age of steam", the only material for boilermaking was the highest grade of wrought iron, with assembly by rivetting. This iron was often obtained from specialist ironworks, such as Cleator Moor (UK), noted for the high quality of their rolled plate and its suitability for high reliability use in critical applications, such as high pressure boilers. 20th century practice moved towards steel and welding." One might plausibly read that to suggest that at the time that it would have been iron, it being in the mid-Victorian era. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 19:38, 5 August 2008 (UTC) Stan

Location

As some others may have noticed, there are two different sets of coordinates on this article. Since there are not street addresses out there in Lake Michigan, and the mapping services do not have high enough resolution aerials to actually see the light, I am at a loss as to which is correct. Can someone with better resources shed any "light" on this? John from Idegon (talk) 04:26, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

I would go with the coordinates from Google earth, which is based on satellite imagery. If its in the picture then its accurate, I would surmise. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 14:10, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks 7+6. the data in the lighthouse infobox was correct, which is what I thought the outcome would be. changed the figures in the NRHP infobox to correspond in the different format. John from Idegon (talk) 17:55, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

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