Talk:Wade Hampton III

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Mobi Ditch in topic Nonsense

NBF edit

I removed the 'legendary' tag re: N.B. Forrest and recast the sentence, insofar as it seems more of a judgment than encyclopedic fact, and the article is about Hampton, not Forrest. 131.24.119.11 17:42, 9 April 2007 (UTC)—Preceding unsigned comment added by thehappysmith (talkcontribs) Reply

Family? edit

I have heard he had twin daughters, with some unexplained scandal involving one of them. This article only mentions two sons. Could we have someone knowledgeable state the exact number and gender of all his progeny?

Early Life and Career edit

It says he was in the State General Assembly and then a Senator. Should it be clarified that he was a State Senator?

yes.Parkwells (talk) 20:34, 7 November 2013 (UTC)Reply

Civil War edit

I am not an historian on Hampton, and have learned much from this article. However, I can clearly see that the first sentence here is muddled, and perhaps assumes reader has more knowledge of the subject of what was considered conservative re: slavery and secession. What does it mean to be conservative thus? If you want to say that he wanted Southerners to be able to keep their slaves AND stay in the Union--say this. And, are you saying he voted against secession? That statement has a different edge to it than the weak statement "he opposed division of the Union". A man on the street can oppose secession, but a legislator has some power in the matter. Say what you mean simply. The clause: "Hampton was loyal to his home state" would be better as a start to the next sentence, i.e. "Loyal to his home state, Hampton resigned from the Senate and enlisted as a private in the South Carolina Militia."

KKK edit

I have trouble with the statement in the "Postbellum Career" section that Hampton was "South Carolina Grand Dragon" of the Ku Klux Klan. The source for that assertion was written more or less anonymously, fifty years after the fact, by someone claiming to be from Georgia, not South Carolina. Other sources I have read state that Hampton gave tacit support to the organization, particularly in the form of raising money for legal defense funds, but that he had no active involvement within the organization. See Andrew, Rod Jr., Wade Hampton: Confederate Warrior to Southern Redeemer, University of North Carolina Press, 2008, pages 343-4. I think the remark about KKK involvement should be clarified, or a better source found for the "Grand Dragon" assertion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.6.9.31 (talk) 05:45, 2 January 2012 (UTC)Reply

Good suggestion of current RS - will add this. If editors have other info from other sources, they can add with cites.Parkwells (talk) 20:36, 7 November 2013 (UTC)Reply

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Compensated emancipation edit

The article mentions that Hampton was not compensated for his slaves after the war. It seems like this should go without saying, but if it is mentioned (and I'm not sure that it needs to be) it should be pointed out that no state had ever compensated slaveowners when slavery was outlawed. An editor took this info out claiming that Northern states like New York had compensated slaveholders -- this is not true. The only compensation ever authorized was in DC during the war. Tom (North Shoreman) (talk) 23:00, 12 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

Cisco not an RS edit

See Donald Livingston about the Abbeville Institute[1] and this review.[2]. Doug Weller talk 11:28, 17 September 2018 (UTC)Reply

Nonsense edit

This article is filled with inaccuracies, myths, folklore and outright lies, attempting to make a racist traitor seem heroic. It is an embarrassment to Wikipedia. Fielding99 (talk) 03:00, 2 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

Much of this article, as edited in 2005 by user:Hlj,[3] (AKA Hal Jespersen), is a is a slight rewording of an unsigned article which now appears at http://www.knowsouthernhistory.net/Biographies/Wade_Hampton/ . It appears that that article was originally written for the "Buford’s Boys!" website.[4] The website owner and author of all articles there is J. David Petruzzi.[5] Petruzzi has published several books of Civil War history, and even his self-published website probably qualifies as a reliable source. Even so, the source article looks more like a piece written for school children rather than a critical biography. Maybe someone can find a better biography and rewrite our article based on that, but it'd be a fair bit of work. Mobi Ditch (talk) 19:05, 2 August 2020 (UTC)Reply