Talk:Virtual Magic Kingdom

New Central Plaza Picture

The picture posted is outdated can someone please obtain a picture of the "new" central plaza that has the magic shop and players chatting and please before posting random players on wikipedia let them know so you can respect their privacy. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by KingFit (talk • contribs) 05:31, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Just to add, if you're going to censor a name, cover it using Microsoft Paint or another editing program.

Bearflip (talk) 01:01, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

HOST_Hula

I think the person who wrote this is HOST_Hula, or knows HOST_Hula, or something like that, because it's always like "Here's HOST_Hula operating a game", "Here's HOST_Hula in her guest room", "Here's HOST_Hula's pins". EvErMoReNeVeRmOrE 23:58, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

That is because She is host Hula — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.174.254.245 (talk) 19:20, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Yeah but maybe you should post it as "A staff member's pins" or whatever. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DK64 (talk • contribs) 23:58, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

HOST_Hula is one of the current VMK host, among HOST_Lily, HOST_Phinny, HOST_Bella and HOST_Hurricane. Also the names of the HOST_'s are known to most players, where as you could not tell the VMK_'s apart. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.119.96.46 (talk) 19:17, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Rewrite

I am going to start doing a rewrite at User:AmericaSings/VMK. If anybody wants to help, that's where I'll be. AmericaSings 21:15, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Muling

Yavn never said he'd ban the accounts with 50+ mules. He would ban the accounts that are inactive and are mules Bearflip 00:24, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Unprofessional Format

I've looked through the guide again and noticed that most things have comments made by the editor

(Such as, The Epcot Room is out now! it is so cool! everybody wants it!)

So if anybody has the time please listen to the rewrite and let this topic be professional for once. Bearflip 02:31, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Hidden Mickey list

I wasn't sure what to do with the list of the locations of all fifty Hidden Mickeys. On one hand, it took up a lot of space in the article, and it's non-encyclopedic (even more so than the list of codes, which are at least interesting in that they show what sorts of things can be won via codes). On the other hand, it's useful to people, and it helps Wikipedia's coverage of the game be complete. I decided to break it out into its own new article, Hidden Mickeys in the Virtual Magic Kingdom, so that Wikipedia would contain it but it wouldn't add clutter to the article. - Brian Kendig 16:08, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks -- I like the idea of putting the hidden mickey "spoilers" into a separate article. Note however that the "official" list you posted (straight from VMK) is poorly descriptive, compared to what was originally posted (although I have no idea what its original source was). Putting in this "non-encyclopedic" information in Wikipedia does seem to be a bit of a slippery slope though -- people might now want to also include in-park quest answers, in-park quest common trivia questions, etc. How to decide what to include? I assume the goal is NOT to produce a "game guide", with solutions to Airlock Escape, or playing tips for the various other games. Bezoar 13:04, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

• Ah, I wondered why information was missing. An dictionary would explain what a capitol is, but an encyclopedia would list of all the capitols of US States. Since the number and locations are known and definitive, it's "fact" as opposed to trying to recreate hiddenmickeys.org in the Wikipedia (so many opinions on what is or is not a Mickey). That said, I've found this page to answer more VMK questions than the handful of fan sites I have visited (I just discovered VMK last week, though I admit to being outside of the "age 8-14" range the game was designed for). I was glad to find that listing, and consider it more to be a spoiler for movies. --Allen Huffman 20:14, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

removal of useful links

The article is much more useful with the links to the various sites and forums devoted to VMK. There's no reason to restrict linking to the official site proper. Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not states: "There is nothing wrong with adding a list of content-relevant links to an article; however, excessive lists can dwarf articles and detract from the purpose of Wikipedia." This list doesn't dwarf this article. - Nunh-huh 09:17, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Fansites like those are culled regularly by administrators from pop-culture articles. My reccommandation would be to try choosing one or two that you really think should be there. WhiteNight ^{T | @ | C} 09:30, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Unfortunately, some overzealous people cull them all. I would have no objection to a shorter list, but I do have objection to any attempt to expunge them entirely. Links are meant to provide access to further information - information we may not want in our article, but that people reading our article might want access to. - Nunh-huh 10:29, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not meant to be a link repository. External links are meant for web pages which add more detailed information to what is discussed in the article, but links to entire sites and discussion forums are better left to the services such as Dmoz and Yahoo which are dedicated to the task. The problem is that if we allow one fan site to be linked from the article, then every person who runs a fan site will want his to be linked from the article, and this sometimes turns into a big war over which sites are "worthy" and which aren't - the best solution to this problem is just to avoid it completely. If there's a web page out there which, say, is an interview with a VMK developer who gives lots of interesting background information on the game, then I'd agree it's suitable as an external link; but the sites you've linked have information which pretty much duplicates what's in Wikipedia, and have discussion boards which definitely aren't encyclopedic. Why do you want to try to duplicate the work which Dmoz and Yahoo already do so much better? If you'd like, maybe we could just link to the appropriate Dmoz/Yahoo category instead. - Brian Kendig 17:01, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

The external links on Wikipedia have always been very useful to me. I'd rather find a list that is reviewed than an open directory that contains mostly crap links. If someone has a specific reason why a link should not be there (ie, not informative; commercial site trying to sell stuff; etc.) then it can be removed. But it's very useful to read about a topic, then find some places that explore the topic far more than Wikipedia. That's the very nature of a "See Also..." isn't it? Although I find at least one item in the list to be rather useless since it's full of kids (or adults who type like kids) hacking and editing and commenting, rendering it rather useless, that's just how open Wiki's work. Including this one. --Allen Huffman 20:38, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

To say that this topic has received lots of discussion over lots of articles through lots of time would be understating the issue. Have a look at Wikipedia:External links and m:When should I link externally for some guidelines, and in particular see Wikipedia talk:External links for a great amount of discussion on the topic. - Brian Kendig 22:31, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Allen, By all means remove links which do not cover the subject in more depth than we do. But that will not include all of them except the "official" one. - Nunh-huh 07:00, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

How about this:

• If a web page corroborates the information in this article, then link to it under a Sources section. See Wikipedia:Citing sources. This article needs some sources to be cited, anyway.
• If a page contains in-depth information about a specialized topic which, while interesting, is too esoteric to be of much interest to people in an encyclopedia, then link to it from External links. See Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information.
• If a site is the predominant and widely-recognized central source of information on this topic, then link to it from External links.
• But if a site is one of many fan sites on the topic, and doesn't otherwise stand out under the points above, then don't link to it. That's what Yahoo/Dmoz/Google are for.

- Brian Kendig 18:08, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

• That certainly sounds reasonable. - Nunh-huh 02:45, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Being as how you're the one who's championing the external links, I'll let you apply these guidelines to 'em. :) - Brian Kendig 22:01, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

I'm a newbie to Wikipedia, but it seems totally pointless to link to the top level of the DIS Forums or Intercot or whatnot. For example, the DIS Forums have several million posts, with 64,000 of them in the VMK forum. Linking to the DIS Boards is, I think, less useful than linking to a Google search. Because I don't agree with this use of external links (pointing to fan sites and discussion forums, rather than to specific sources and articles of information), I'm not going to go through and fix the external links. But perhaps the people who want them can at least point them to the appropriate sub-forum? Bezoar 15:05, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Just wanted to add that I agree with Brian on this - MagicKnight 08:11, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

NPCs versus Characters?

Doesn't the VMK game call them "Characters" rather than NPCs? --Allen Huffman 21:54, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Yup, it does. I'll revert the edit that renamed that section. - Brian Kendig 21:59, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

If they are characters, then why are u able to say NPC in the game? 70.170.93.169 00:19, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Because you can, you can't say avatars in the game either last time i checked, so somebody might have to say characters instead. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Borntobore (talk • contribs) 12:45, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Semi-protection?

This article seems to have become a frequent target of vandalism by anons and newly-created accounts. By my count, vandalism and reversions account for more than half of the most recent 100 edits. What would y'all say to this article being semi-protected to cut down on the vandalism? - Brian Kendig 22:24, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I'm semi-protecting this article in an effort to hold off the vandalism. See Wikipedia talk:Semi-protection policy for my discussion of the policy. - Brian Kendig 00:08, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

This obviously is a good idea. I remember seeing a hateful speech to the mods on VMK, saying that they keep banning people for no reason, and other stuff. Another thing is that Championstich, who I saw a few times before on VMK. He posted this: "The best staff on vmk are VMK_someone and VMK_Championstitch. Semi-protection is good. Dacheatcode 21:42, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Timeline

The timeline is subject to dispute, the dates are not entirely acurate and I feel this information is frivilous, not needed and clutters the article. - MagicKnight 00:42, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Codes

I'm starting to think, in the interests of making this more of an encyclopedia article and less of a game guide, that the list of codes to get credits really doesn't belong here. I used to be in favor of it, but I don't think I am any more. Anyone else have an opinion on it? Or is there any other material in this article that's more like a game guide and doesn't really belong? Like, maybe some of the Events section can be removed and/or condensed? - Brian Kendig 05:12, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Actually, if there are no dissenting opinions, I'm going to start dumping a lot of the game-guide-ish stuff about VMK into Wikibooks. - Brian Kendig 19:05, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Codes are very helpful. - —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.144.135.54 (talk • contribs) — Preceding undated comment added 01:51, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Hey bingo

I think the codes are a good idea as Wikipedia is an online encyclopaedia but is still MUCH more than that.

It has loads of other things, not just boring info. See ya - —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alligator1234 (talk • contribs) — Preceding undated comment added 15:49, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

StrategyWiki

No one's offered an opinion so far, so I'll just ask once more before I move stuff. Wikibooks is starting to discourage game guide material and it's instead recommending that StrategyWiki [1] be the destination for such material, so I've created a stub VMK article there [2] in preparation for moving some VMK information there and out of Wikipedia. Specifically, some of the things I would like to move OUT OF Wikipedia and INTO StrategyWiki are:

• The list of multi-use codes
• The entirety of Virtual Magic Kingdom collectible items
• The entirety of Hidden Mickeys in the Virtual Magic Kingdom

Anyone have any opinions, yea or nay? - Brian Kendig 04:23, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

To ensure full GFDL compliance remember to copy the edit history onto the talk page (example). :) Garrett^Talk 10:48, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for the tip; I didn't know about this! Is there a policy page somewhere which explains the need for it? What if I'm moving a section of an article - what edit history needs to be copied, then? - Brian Kendig 11:50, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

You can see m:Transwiki for the whole process and all the reasoning (note the transwiki log isn't used by StrategyWiki). But basically the GFDL requires a list of the major authors of the text in question, and the history paste-in is the easiest way to achieve this (and so has become policy). For a section move all you really need to do is put something like "split from cool#rad" in the edit summary (and similar for the page you're cutting it from). The history paste-in is only for author tracking between projects, everything else can be done with backlinks or redirects. Garrett^Talk 22:41, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

I've moved the information to StrategyWiki. Please feel free to turn that article into a terrific VMK game guide, while leaving this article encyclopedic in nature. - Brian Kendig 21:45, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Nah, we already have a guide with codes and everything you listed. Go here:*Disney's Online Worlds Dacheatcode 21:47, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

FYI

Just as a note for everyone, I have replaced the pictures of quest cards with clearer pictures. - Yumsse 8:33, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Actually, the images you put (Image:PrcklyPearChr.JPG and Image:GldnEars.jpg) are smaller and of much lower quality than the previous images (Image:Vmk-card-cactuschair.jpg and Image:Vmk-card-goldenears.jpg). - Brian Kendig 14:35, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

what FYI stand for? -KanuT 13:23, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Look it up in Wikipedia! FYI - Brian Kendig 03:52, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

( Too bad the chair was not a multi-use code! Dacheatcode 21:48, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Unreleased Costumes

I have added a bit to Clothing, explaining known information about unreleased costumes. Please tell me what you think. Yumsse 14:57, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

OK, who deleted it? Yumsse 13:33, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Oh wait, nvm. Yumsse 13:36, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

We need Production info...

All that gameplay info is felpful, but could we add some production notes and things like that too? I bet quite a few casual readers would like to know how this got started, who started it, what it used to look like, etc. If we don't, this article won't be so high-quality... Abby724 05:03, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Please feel free to add this kind of material, as long as you attribute the sources of your information! - Brian Kendig 20:44, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

References

According to a Community Leader you have to have a Degree in Computer Science in order to become a VMK Staff Member.

Can anyone find a reference for this recently added sentence? Vanguard 14:00, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Dude, thats called vandilism. You can NEVER be a vmk staff member. Sorry to break it to you. Dacheatcode 21:51, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Cleanup/rewrite

Having read through this, it almost all appears to be based off of primary source material or original research. If secondary sources exist, this needs to be stubbed and written from verifiable content (most of what's here seems to be original research of the type "I played the game and found..."). Also, much of the "howto" information ("to get this item do this") needs to be deleted-WP:NOT a howto or game guide. Seraphimblade 02:23, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Please, have at it. I believe that all the material in this article can be sourced; I just have to find the correct sources in the VMK.com documentation and the fan sites. (So please don't gut the article!) As for the "howto" information, I've been diligently trying to keep the article free of that, but some of it's crept back in over the past week or two. - Brian Kendig 02:51, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

I just deleted a whole bunch of stuff from the article, that mainly was stuff like "One time, I was playing a game, and it was fun". WestJet 04:12, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Disneyworldonlines cites most of the sources making all areas of the article true. Bearflip 02:37, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

When I read the article, it sounded like to me Wikipedia was making VMK sound bad. It was almost like VMK was very low quality and it wasn't fun at all. That's the impression I got. But I play it, and it's not that bad. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Norlid (talk • contribs) 15:32, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

What's wrong with VMK?

When I read the article, it sounded like to me Wikipedia was making VMK sound bad. It was almost like VMK was very low quality and it wasn't fun at all. That's the impression I got. But I play it, and it's not that bad. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Norlid (talk • contribs) 15:32, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

For kids not adults

This game is for all ages but for manily kids becase its made by disney. So teens and adults play too they have found there way around the bad word rules. Saying any bad words will be blocked they have the turned not allowed word hell to he'll or he will. They have also made groups based on real life tragides,for insance armys groups of hunters and respect the twin towers sounds like bush iying all over again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.127.138.60 (talk) 02:08, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

What are you saying? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Norlid (talk • contribs) 15:17, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

As long as the life expectancy is over 13, expect that a lot — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bearflip (talk • contribs) 06:58, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

It's not 8-13. It happens to be 8-14. Read the VMK Values. It also says that any age can play. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.158.177.73 (talk) 17:45, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

ANYONE CAN PLAY!! It might say that it is from ages 8-14, but all ages can play! My older sister's friends play, and they think it's fun. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.111.190.220 (talk) 18:40, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Simple And Easy Codes

To get simple codes, go to the VMK main homepage and go to the Arcade. Click Narnia, or Pirates, and play to win easy codes! The pirate game is hard, but the Narnia one just makes you answer questions, so try both. See you in the game, GreenWarrior —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.172.142.164 (talk) 21:28, 4 February 2007 (UTC).

External links

It has come to my attention that there are a couple of users out there looking to make Wikipedia their own personal advertising grounds for their fansite or seprate wiki. THIS IS NOT THE PLACE. As long as people continue to add these links in, just to get traffic to their site, they WILL BE REMOVED. The purpose of this section of Wikipedia.org is to provide informative and reliable information about VMK, not unreliable and poorly-maintained external links and refrences to other fansites and wikis of which we cannot control. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.178.152.80 (talk • contribs) 13:23, March 15, 2007

There is no prohibition against linking to a few major fan sites for games like this one; please don't assume that such links are 'spam' being added by the sites' maintainers. The wiki link you've been removing as spam is actually, as far as I can tell, much better maintained and has better information than the freewebs site that was left in, and than the page on strategywiki, which is mainly a list of items available for players to collect. I've replaced those sites with the disney worlds online wiki, and also reordered the links: the official site should be listed first. -- Vary | Talk 14:54, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

It sounds like the resolution for this would be to keep only the official game link in the EL section. The problem with keeping these links in is that the editors who are adding them are people who are adding them to get traffic to other sites they own, such as DOW, who has many link-backs to other fansites they "own." I do not think that other wiki links belong in this wiki. It is almost like going to one of these fansites and advertising another, which you know is usually not allowed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.178.152.80 (talk • contribs) 15:41, March 15, 2007

Again, please do not assume that the people who are adding these links are the owners of these fan sites. There is no problem with adding links to fan-maintained sites, if they have good information. Note that WP:EL reccomends avoiding "Links to open wikis, except those with a substantial history of stability and a substantial number of editors." The Disney Online Worlds wiki has both (besides which, registration is required to edit, so it's not really 'open,' either). Please take a look at the articles of some other online games: you'll see that they all include a few links to well-maintained fan sites. Links to fan sites can be useful, because they contain a level of detail which is not possible or appropriate in a Wikipedia article. This link is permissible under wikipedia policy, and there's no policy-based reason to remove it. It has been added several times by different editors, and you appear to be the only one who has a problem with it. Please be aware that frequent, persistent reverting against consensus is considered edit warring, and is strongly discouraged, and that wikipedia has a three revert rule to help prevent revert wars.

Also, please be careful not to remove other editor's comments on talk pages, as you did here; reverting both my edit on the main article and my justification of said edit on the talk page might look disingenuous. And please remember to sign your talk page comments using four tildes (~~~~) -- Vary | Talk 16:45, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

There are others who have had a problem, too, as you can see up the page. I do not think that people's personal fansites and guides belong on this Wiki - it seems as though they are trying to detract attention and/or traffic from this one to their own. I understand you are a member of the fansite that runs this wiki, but I don't think thats an excuse. It's the same user adding them time and time again, so I see no reason not to remove them time and time again. Trust me, they are not adding them to be helpful - they are adding them to make their wiki more popular and get traffic to their "family" of sites. You are right, some of them are useful, but most are not. Again, I see no problem just keeping the official game site as the one and only external link until something else comes about that is not a fansite or another wiki.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.178.152.80 (talk • contribs) 17:34, March 15, 2007

The problem is that there is a strong precedence on other game-related articles to allow a few fan sites of reasonably good quality in the external links. I'm not advocating including every site on the web, but of the sites that have been added to the external links lately, this one is the best; it was certainly better than the others which you initially left in the article. What resources are you expecting to appear for this game other than fan sites? One of the purposes of adding links to fan sites, as I said, is to provide detailed information that does not belong in this article. That is why fan sites are used in external links in a number of wikipedia articles. Why are you so adamantly against this one?

I don't see any other discussion of external links on this talk page, so I'm not sure what you meant by that, but I'm asking you to assume good faith here. How do you know that they're not trying to be helpful? Why should I "trust you;" do you have some information that I'm not privy to? I've been an admin on wikipedia for just over a year and I have over 10,000 edits. I've seen my share of spam. Not every person who adds an external link is a spammer -- Vary | Talk 20:28, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

See the "removal of useful links" section above to understand what I'm talking about. I left the Freewebs and StrategyWiki links in and removed these because they are not looking to get traffic for their "family" of sites. As far as I know both sites were advertisement-free (I did review them) and DOW was not. I noticed a repeating pattern of "For more information or questions, see here..." which has been my entire point all along. I have nothing against either of these sites (I do not participate in any VMK-related fansites) and I do not wish to harm them at all. If we could redirect to a certain article for more information, that would be fine, but I do not think that redirecting to a generalization of sites is acceptable. Look at the history, and you'll see that the same people are adding these links back time and time again. It's the same person, and only up until recently has a "new" person begun to add the link back when it is removed. These people are also "avid" goers of the fansite they are linking back to as I am told. I guess we are just going to have to agree to disagree because you are the Wiki admin, and I am not. Also, it seems someone has added another link to the Freewebs site under another link title. I will let you decide what you want to do with it, remove it or leave it. 24.178.152.80 00:39, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

I wanted to add that I have thought about it overnight and I agree that DOW should stay on the EL section; however, there seems to be no useful information whatsoever about the game on the last two links that DOW does not have, so I have removed it. I do not think it makes a difference whether or not I remove it, because they tag right along after me and add it again, which is another issue that needs to be adressed. How can we protect this page from further vandalism? I think if we did the account-only protection, it may put a stop to the vandalism and further pinpoint the people who are doing it. 24.178.152.80 14:03, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

From what I have seen on the DOW site, it is being used to direct traffic to VMKforums, Toontown Central, and PiratesOnlineForums which charges members to join. I do not see any difference in this and any other fansite. I do not think it is right to allow some fan sites, but not others. If all the sites contain the same information then they should all be allowed or none at all. Just my 2 cents. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.16.250.186 (talk) 23:26, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

DOW will stay and all directly-linked fansites will go. I think we've beat this horse enough. As long as Aficionada or whoever else keeps adding links to their poorly maintained free-forum based sites, they will be removed. 24.178.152.80 12:13, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Any use in fixing?

I know this article could be possibly recreated, but, me being new, I was wondering if I can edit errors (such as the "Codes sections" where there are unneccessary comments made and the section is repeated?)Thanks! --~*Twinkler4*~ 00:30, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Semiprotection

I have semiprotected this article, with an expiry of 2 weeks (chosen arbitrarily). There's just too much ongoing random anonymous vandalism going on to keep up with, and the result is that obscenities or editorialisms have been left in place for days, or deletions of entire sections have gone unnoticed and almost lost in the edit log. These two weeks will be a bit of a breather, for established authors to go through the article and clean it up to a better standard before we let the new/anonymous editors at it again. - Brian Kendig 15:39, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

I know, someone keeps on reputting the scam where it it talks about scamming. I keep deleting it because it was already mentioned, so we need some help with this. Dacheatcode 19:11, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

I kept putting it back because I didn't know why it was being deleted. You should have mentioned the reason in your edit summary. - Brian Kendig 11:33, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

The reason I was deleting it was this: Players can trade pins and room furnishings. One player clicks on someone's character to show an info window, then clicks 'Trade'. The other player will be asked if he wants to trade, and if he does, both players will see a trading window. Each player can double-click on his items to place them in the "offer" area, and once both players are satisfied, they each click an "accept" checkbox and that completes the trade. (Any change to either person's offer will clear both "accept" checkboxes and require both players to accept again.) While in a trade the letter "T" will appear over your avatars head so other players know that you are in a trade. As of April 2007 the "Ask to be Friend" button was removed and players could now see the description of the items that are in the trade which became useful to players so they don't get scammed into thinking a certain object is another.

Some clothing items are only available for boys or girls, and cannot be traded to the other gender. For example, a girl can not trade her princess outfit to a boy.

Some players try to take advantage of the trading window to scam other players. What usually happens is that a scammer will offer a valuable item for trade, he will ask someone else to put lots of good items into the offer area, and then he will quickly withdraw his valuable item and replace it with a cheap item and click "accept", hoping the other person won't notice the switch. A scammer can be reported by clicking the "Help" button at the bottom of the VMK window then clicking the "Call for Help" tab, but VMK staff does not appear to be often successful at returning lost items. As of October 5, trading was altered slightly so that after both users accept, they are shown an unchangeable summary of the items to be traded and they are asked to accept again, to avoid unpleasant surprises.

Bold Text Another scamming trick is to ask to "try on" an item of clothing. After the victim has given the item, the scammer leaves the room, taking the item with him. The victim has not hop of finding the scammer in the whole of VMK

Each player can put a maximum of fifteen items into a trade. A scammer will sometimes offer to give a rare item in return for more than fifteen items, necessitating two separate trades where the scammer promises to put the rare item into the second trade, but instead once the victim has given him fifteen items in the first trade the scammer will flee.

Another scam involves teleporters; a scammer will trade a pair of teleporters which appear to be identical but are not "matched" and therefore won't work together (using either might send a character someplace unintended, or might not function at all) this is most likely on accident since players did not know which teleporters matched.However this has become less common since the game was changed to highlight both teleporters in a matched set when one is selected, so that a person can see if a pair is not matched.

Some scammers offer to provide codes in return for items. Since codes cannot be traded or communicated in the game, these scammers will usually disappear (without providing any codes) after being given the items for which they asked, or else they'll communicate with their target outside the game and provide codes which have already been used and can no longer be redeemed.

A player can report a scammer with a "Report" button on his profile in the game, or by using the "Contact Us" link on the web site.

P.S. Whats a edit summary? Can you make a link to it? Thanks. Also, it would not let me get rid of the Bold Text part >_> Dacheatcode 22:05, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

See Help:Edit summary. - Brian Kendig 14:44, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

What happned?

Didnt there used to be a section about vmk rumors somewhere? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.28.51.36 (talk) 21:03, 21 May 2007 (UTC) Grrr... What the heck is happening here!? There one day and the next gone! :( —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.28.51.36 (talk • contribs)

No... there was no rumor section on Wiki. I think you are thinking of Disneys Online Worlds. Go here: http://www.disneyonlineworlds.com/index.php/Myths_and_Rumors —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dacheatcode (talk • contribs) — Preceding undated comment added 19:05, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot 11:18, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Changes made to Acquiring credits section.

I recently made changes to the Acquiring credits section. I added Monorail Mix Game and the Tomorrowland Games, as well as made a few small changes. Goldhunt 05:31, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Changes made to Guest rooms section

I recently also made a few changes to the Guest rooms section. It now includes information on booting players. I also made a few punctuation revisions, and fixed it to where a few sentences could be read smoother. Goldhunt 07:33, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Buy cards from Disney?

I was just on a Disney pin collecters website and it said u can buy two randomly selected rare pins for fifteen dollars!Here Maybe we should include that in the article...tell me if we should! Kookylad 18:48, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

I think it would be a good idea to insert this under In-Park Quests, even though it is not a quest, it is something that can be bought at the parks. Goldhunt 21:11, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

The Tomorrowland Game Rooms?

I think it is important information. I know you don't get a ton of credits from those games, however they are still games. Should we keep it, or just stick to the major games? Goldhunt 21:08, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

well, wikipedia is usually about covering everything..(at least i think they do) so yeah, tommorowland games sound like they could fit in their. Kookylad 23:17, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

club 33

what about club 33? should we put that in? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kookylad (talk • contribs) 01:06, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

No, I don't think anything about the real Club33 needs to be put in this article. The VMK Club33 is already in this article, under Guest Rooms. Goldhunt 08:01, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

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What is club 33?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.22.85.134 (talk) 06:38, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Rationale

I have added a rationale to the Push pic, but I am new to Wiki. Will somebody please go, and make sure I did this correctly. Thanks Goldhunt 05:38, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Links to Wikis with Conflict of Interests

Yesterday, when I visited this article and my first action was removing a link to a wholly owned and operated wiki (http://www.disneysonlineworlds.com) of VMK Forums (http://www.vmkforums.com). This link was removed because of the inherent conflict of interest.

The editors on the linked wiki are members of VMK Forums (http://www.vmkforums.com), which is a social networking site and/or discussion forum. Further, the wiki that is linked does not have a substantial amount of history.

Regardless, I argue this is a conflict of interest as it is a self-promoting wiki for a discussion forum. I would urge the information to be moved directly to this site or an independent site to resolve this conflict of interest.

Personally, I have nothing against the site and found the information useful as additional reading; however, the site is self-promoting and intended to draw traffic to wholly owned and operated blogs, social networking and/or discussion forum sites.

Is there a way to make the linked wiki more independent to resolve this conflict of interest?

Becteros 22:02, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

yea host hula is a host i think i now alot of staff and hosts like host fin and hula i met on staff her name is QU Berry with blue ears and magic from shops. host usealy have red ears on and staff has blue ears on and they are bta not in stores — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.199.171.128 (talk) 14:25, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

...

Whoever typed the above statement (As I'm not sure if becteros typed that, or the person below didn't add a space before it), It's QA_Berry if that's who you're talking about. Staff and Hosts ALWAYS have red ears at the moment, unless they're sporting a new staff uniform. I mean, I don't know what your post has anything to do with the main topic posted here, but I just felt like correcting you.

Anyways, fansites are never approved unless in an article describing fansites, or ones that happen to be in articles such as Myspace. Let's just keep it at that

Bearflip (talk) 00:59, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

... I don't know where you got the information "the wiki that is linked does not have a substantial amount of history.", but it's wrong.

That wiki was created long before VMK started, and VMK information was being added to it before the game went to public beta, well before any information was being collected anywhere else.

The site that produced that wiki is was the first, and is the largest, independent VMK forum online. It's inclusion on this page only makes sense. Kid Bugs 23:44, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 03:25, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Do we really need to know about scamming here??

The Trading & Scamming section mainly lists ways to scam other players in the game, and that certianly doesn't help the article. In my opinion, we should take out all of those ways listed, and just mention that scamming is a problem in the game, that's all. I just want to make sure that someone agrees before I delete a big chunk of the article. Abcw12 (talk) 02:09, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

I agree, we should only keep the trading stuff. WP:WIN says:

• While Wikipedia has descriptions of people, places, and things, a Wikipedia article should not read like a how-to style manual of instructions, advice (legal, medical, or otherwise) or suggestions, or contain "how-to"s. This includes tutorials, walk-throughs, instruction manuals, game guides, and recipes.

And the scam portion reads like a "How to scam". Prevention of scams is already explained on the VMK site and doesn't belong here, in my opinion. Valerius Myotis (talk) 04:27, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

I consider it more of a "This game is not sunshine and flowers" ending deal. All of this is on the VMK website, so the VMK website reads like a how to scam.

Using the logic given, all of our Video Game articles read like instuction manuals.

Besides, it's at the bottom, so not too many people will acknowledge it.

Bearflip (talk) 00:54, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

And, no matter how much "how to" advice we give, you really can't scam on VMK, because they'll permanently kick you out. Just a word from a VMK veteran ( don't worry. I've never been banned).--Listen to your Princess, dear Wikipedians. (talk) 14:06, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Scamming shouldn't be made a big thing of and only brief (if at all) commented on in the trading section. Opherrichards (talk) 22:39, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Vmk is closing

I just checked it out.VMK is closing for GOOD.Never ever coming back.I feel bad that it is closing but Wiki staff,you may want to put that in the article.No wait, i'll do it. But thanks 4 reading!- Npurplegirl —Preceding unsigned comment added by Npurplegirl (talk • contribs) 20:45, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

On June 28th call Radio Disney and complain about VMK closing. It's called Hurricane VMK. The number is 1-888-327-7018. Thank you! Oh, and don't just call once. Call like, a ton, so they can't even run the radio. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.148.190.252 (talk) 19:01, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Any Volunteers to Change All VMK Words to Past Tense?

After May 21st, we're going to need to change the language in the article to a "VMK was" sort of thing. For instance, the sentence, "Disney's Virtual Magic Kingdom, also known simply as VMK, is a free massively multiplayer online game run by Walt Disney Parks and Resorts Online.", will have to be changed to, "Disney's Virtual Magic Kingdom, also known simply as VMK, was a free massively multiplayer online game run by Walt Disney Parks and Resorts Online." Any volunteers to help do that on May 21st? We will also have to create a new section in the article offering reasons why this will be happening. I won't mind doing that.--Listen to your Princess, dear Wikipedians. (talk) 19:53, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Maybe rewording at the same time so that the tone/style is more appropriate for Wikipedia. I am sure up for some rewording, something to do instead of playing the game. Opherrichards (talk) 22:40, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

From reading the entire article there are many repeated items. I think the best way forward is that when VMK closes, not only change everything to the past, but also move things around into a better format. This article has a large introduction section, most of which is not vital information and could belong in the body. Opherrichards (talk) 09:10, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah. :-( I'm going to miss VMK.--Listen to your Princess, dear Wikipedians. (talk) 14:11, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

The game is not yet closed. The article shouldn't be in past tense yet. - Brian Kendig (talk) 12:58, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

I will change the terms to past tense if needed :) --Swkyle (talk) 22:06, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Tomorrowland Quest magic pins

Shouldn't there be a section on the Tomorrowland quests and their magic pins? Each of the three magic pins (Car, Dive, and Space) is important outside of being a magic pin. Car lets you drive on special tracks in the game and collect items; Dive lets you go to special underwater areas in the game and collect items; and, most importantly, Space lets you access the Inner-Space Shop. Those are not the real names of the pins, but I cannot think of the real names off the top of my head (A good place to look to get the real names of the pins is Disney's Online Worlds Wiki). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.12.237.143 (talk) 16:32, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Could be included in the inpark quest section, and explain they had to be done in order. Opherrichards (talk) 18:57, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Proposed new format

Things dont really follow on at the moment and could do with completely remodeling. I have come up with the following layout that could be used:
Contents
1 Gameplay
2 Guest Rooms and Awards
3 MiniGames
4 Events
5 Quests
5.1 In-game
5.2 In-park
5.3 Hidden Mickeys
6 Character Profiles
6.1 Badges
6.2 Pins
6.3 Clothing
7 Credits
8 Trading
9 Online safety features
10 Closure of VMK
11 External links
Does anyone object to this and/or have any suggestions on how this could be more suitable? Opherrichards (talk) 19:09, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

For some reason this is theraputic for me, I have started to rewrite the article with this format in mind. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Opherrichards/Sandbox That is how far I have got so far. (Plan on changing the picture to one as soon as I am allowed to upload pictures) Opherrichards (talk) 22:25, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Opening Back

I found out that VMK may be opening back in October.Add it??--LilMissNicole+++.;+= (talk) 20:14, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Not unless you can cite a reliable source. Kafziel ^{Complaint Department} 20:28, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

i love vmk but why shut it down yea you have to pay a little money big deal now i have nothing to do —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.132.244.189 (talk) 22:15, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

The Money Deal $$$

It is very stupid of Disney to close down VMK. It was a great game, and I think they should have kept on going. Disney could have announced that they would do a pay to play noline game of VMK. For 5 dollars a month, you would be a member, like most games. After each month, maybe 5, 10, 15,000 kids would pay. 5x10,000 is 50,000 dollars! Even though Disney does not need the money, it would be shrewd of them to do it. Fun for kids, fun for the staff, and a little extra moola. So Disney, don't ostracize the kids of America, and the rest of the world... Be altruistic! Give VMK another chance! Make it happen! Show YOUR love!

~CrazyCow;) <3 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.117.176.226 (talk) 20:04, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

I am no expert on building games, but I've heard that the reason they decided to just close the game instead of making it pay-to-play was because in order to make it pay-to-play, they would have to nearly re-develop the game from ground up. It would be nice though. Maybe some day somebody will buy the copyright from Disney and take the task upon themself. Even better, they could buy it and keep it open as a free-to-play game. :D Goldhunt (talk) 22:33, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Hmm, true true. Yes, it would be nice. Well, it is possible someone can buy the label, but I am not sure who would do it. To basically make this concise, someone who is willing to pay and make thousands of kids happy, and... you can afford it... it might be smart to do that plan. But then-again, we are in an economy crisis that President Obama is working on. But, it probably would be very shrewd in the future.

~CrazyCow <3 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.111.6.223 (talk) 05:04, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Not kid safe

I find it amusing that VMK was advertised as "safe" for kids. I guess it's safe to say without incurring the anger of disney, now, but this place was anything but innocent. Many of the personal profiles included phrases such as "I'm available" or "I'm taken", and I remember being asked regularly whether I wanted to be someone's "boyfriend". If I was to guess a single reason it was shutdown...it would be the scandal that would have hit disney, if it had been known that underage teens were using VMK as a makeout site. 24.130.129.35 (talk) 11:58, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Oh, and while we're at it, before someone complains in an outraged tone that it wasn't like that at all...check the user forums. Have a look at the extensive language that was developed by users so they could avoid the censors -- the information that wasn't supposed to be available -- names, addresses, phone numbers -- the ways to get around that were so widely used, it was actually difficult for new people to read typical conversations from the old timers. 24.130.129.35 (talk) 12:10, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Central Plaza Picture Description

I don't believe the current description of this picture is accurate. It states that somebody is exiting the Magic Shop. The Magic Shop was never even located in Central Plaza, so needless to say, I don't see anybody in the picture exiting the Magic Shop. I recommend that the description be changed. Goldhunt (talk) 22:27, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

External Links

About those links I removed. 1) The link to the VMK website was defunct. WIkipedia's guidelines for defunct links is to remove them. They are of no use. 2) The link to the recreation of the game was not related to the game and therefore has no purpose here. Check Wikipedia's guidelines and notability. Kringe1 (talk) 05:51, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

Citations

This article has one citation. One. And that one citation is a dead link. Seriously, this has no notability and it's longer than most video game articles. Please improve it. Kringe1 (talk) 05:53, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

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