Talk:Types of psychological depression

Lead image

The lead image is perfectly appropriate in this article. The image caption states that the image "shows the despair of a woman trying to provide for her family during the Great Depression". Despair during a desperate situation is often a cause of psychological depression. Is she depressed? Maybe she is, maybe she isn't. That's not the point. The point is the woman in the photo has the expression that someone suffering from a form of psychological depression can often have. The Major depressive disorder article does the exact same thing for its lead article. Is the man in Vincent van Gogh's At Eternity's Gate suffering from major depressive disorder? Who knows, but the image illustrates what a person who is depressed might look like. Rreagan007 (talk) 19:12, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Use of that image to represent depression constitutes original research on your part, a violation of a basic Wikipedia priciple. Further, if you research the woman you might find that she likely did not suffer from depression at all - the story of her life is available on the 'net. This woman has children and grandchildren, I doubt they would appreciate your effort to make their mother/grandmother the poster child for depression. She is already the poster child for the Great Depression and she did not appreciate that. Lose the picture please. It does not belong there. --65.87.105.7 (talk) 19:21, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

There is no original research, because the image caption does not say that she is depressed. Though I must say that the Great Depression sounds awfully depressing. As far as what her children and grandchildren want, the image is in the public domain and their wants are irrelevant. Besides the fact that I doubt you have any idea what they do and do not want. It is an iconic picture, and perfectly appropriate here. Please find a better lead image for the article before removing the one that is already in place. Rreagan007 (talk) 19:25, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

I will not play the revert game any more with you, you can win that game. Fact is that (mis)using the picture of an actual known person, living or dead, is far different from using a work of art of some long-dead artist. And I cannot believe that you do not know the difference between the Great Depression and depressive disorder so I guess you are making a joke there. She is illustrative of the Great Depression, not of this article. If you want a lead picture why not just go take one yourself of some random person that you think looks depressed - she looks tired and worried to me. --65.87.105.7 (talk) 20:17, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Public domain just means that using the image isn't plagiarism. Also, just because the image can be used doesn't mean it should -- this image could cause confusion between the senses of "depression." Someone the Person (talk) 20:50, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure what exactly you mean about causing "confusion between the senses of 'depression'." Rreagan007 (talk) 21:01, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

The word "depression" in "Great Depression" might suggest to some readers that we've conflated psychological and economic depressions. The fact that "great" and "major" (as in "Great Depression" and "major depression") are synonyms doesn't help. And the double-use of the word "depression" can strike some readers as inappropriately distracting or amusing--sort of analogous to illustrating the Don Knotts article with a picture of Don Knotts tying a knot. As for this article, I haven't yet given much thought to whether or not the picture itself is suitable, but I've "fixed" the "depression/Depression" problem by generalizing "the Great Depression" as "a time of economic hardship". Cosmic Latte (talk) 21:22, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

References???

What a horrible lack of references for such a well studied subject. It doesn't seem too hard for an expert to go through and reference all this stuff will journal type citations. I personally would like to see a reference for the claim that depression is strongly genetic and weakly environmental. This seems almost impossible to test.--FUNKAMATIC ~talk 17:16, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Agreed. I am adding a lack of refs template. DJ Barney (talk) 12:16, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Name of article

Why is this article not called Depression (psychological)? The name is overly cumbersome and not intuitive. Regards, —mattisse (Talk) 22:46, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Depression (psychology) or Depression (psychiatry) or Psychological depression might be better names for the article, but I'm not really sure which one would be best. "Psychological depression" already redirects here, but "Depression (psychiatry)" redirects to Major depressive disorder. It would probably be a good idea to bring the question up at Wikipedia:WikiProject Psychology and Wikipedia:WikiProject Medicine/Psychiatry task force. I will note however that there are several other "Types of..." articles such as: Types of volcanic eruptions, Types of chocolate, Types of restaurants, and Types of rape.

Rreagan007 (talk) 23:43, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

I've thought about this for a few days and I think the current title of the article is appropriate since this article is set up as an overview article of all the different types of psychological depression, similar to other "Types of..." articles on Wikipedia. Rreagan007 (talk) 16:40, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Delete or merge this article

(moved to mood disorder talk page) Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:24, 25 May 2010 (UTC)