Talk:Tylopoda

Other than Camels

What about the Alpaca, Llama, Guanaco, etc? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.216.163.52 (talk) 00:31, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

What about them? Bob the WikipediaN ^{(talk • contribs)} 03:34, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

(1) your humor is underwhelming

(2) You failed to answer the question why half this clade is left unmentioned 71.38.38.177 (talk) 04:27, 16 June 2022 (UTC) nelsoc4

Eight (8) living Tylopoda

There are in fact 8 living tylopoda: Bactrian Camel, Dromedary Camel, Wild Camel (Genetically distinct), Llama, Suri Alpaca, Huacaya Alpaca, Guanaco, Vicuña. (All of these are Genetically distinct) the way it is listed claims that there are only 5 which is not correct. Guanaco, Alpaca and Vicuña are all llamas so If you just say camels and do not mention the three typs of camel that exist then it does not make any sense to mention any other type of llama; which you have incomplete! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dibe.bi.ee (talk • contribs) 05:11, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

The common name "llama" normally refers only to the domestic species Lama glama, not to guanacos, alpacas or vicuñas, which are distinct species. On the other hand, the terms "Bactrian Camel" and "wild camel" both refer to the same species. In this suborder level article, we don't need to list living taxa down to the level of subspecies. More detailed information is given in the family and genus level articles. WolfmanSF (talk) 23:33, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Pseudoruminants? Selenodonts?

The intro to this article cites a textbook which says "camels are not ruminants, pseudoruminants, or modified ruminants". I'm not an expert, but as near as I can tell the term "pseudoruminant" was specifically invented to cover camelids which exhibit ruminating behavior but have only a single chamber stomach, hence pseudo-ruminants. Other (admittedly lesser) sources seem content with calling camelids pseudoruminants or modified ruminants, as does our article on pseudoruminants. Am I missing something? Why not pseudoruminants? It may be an overzealous attempt by that author to separate camelids from true ruminants, but unfortunately it doesn't go into further detail so it's difficult to say. It's also a good and recent source so it's difficult to find a source I feel confident can contradict it. This source is cited frequently on Wikipedia and is dangerously vague, so it'd be helpful if we could get some expert insight into what the author may have meant and the status of Tylopoda as pseudoruminants. At the moment, the article text does not use this quote, so it's not an immediate issue, but it may arise later without clarification. Much obliged. Scoundr3l (talk) 05:26, 7 January 2018 (UTC)