Talk:TransSiberian (film)

Trans-Mongolian Railway

The standard train route from Beijing to Moscow is the Trans-Mongolian Railway. The Trans-Siberian Railway doesn't even enter China, but goes to Vladivostok in the Russian far east instead. This is not original research, but well documented (with maps) and painstakingly sourced in those two articles.

On the other hand, it may well be that the movie completely ignores this fact of reality. None of the reviews I've read even mentions Mongolia. In case that the plot does indeed pretend that a train trip between those two cities would cross a Chinese-Russian border with nothing in between (and without taking an absurd detour via the trans-Manchurian line to the east first), then the artistic liberty taken to assume such a fiction should be explained in the article.

There is also the trans-manchurian, which seems to be the line used in the movie. I have edited the article for accuracy. I believe the line is from Vladivostok to Petersburg, so it was quite inaccurate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Leetrefz (talk • contribs) 09:37, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

I haven't seen the movie (don't think it's out in Europe yet), so I'll have to rely on other people about this part. But I'll have to insist on the actual train route such a trip would take in real life. --Latebird (talk) 21:28, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Interjection: The film specifically shows the map at the station. There are TWO forks, one going to Vladivostok, one to Beijing - --64.142.36.76 (talk) 02:08, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Reviews of the film mention it takes place on the "Trans-Siberian Express",[1] [2] [3] though one article mentions the Trans-Siberian Railway[4] heading to Moscow. If you can cite a source that the "Trans-Siberian Express" is the same thing as the Trans-Mongolian Railway, I'd welcome the addition. If not, the fact fails WP:V dissolve^talk 22:30, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

The "Express" is just a specific train on the trans-siberian line. I wouldn't count on the accuracy of such terminology in a movie anyway, and rather check for specific stations that may be mentioned. In the mean time, I've found that there is indeed another common route, which goes around Mongolia. It crosses into Russia at Manzhouli, and adds more than 1,000 km to the distance, which makes it look unlikely on the map. But better line capacities and the elimination of the second border crossing may compensate for at least part of that apparent disadvantage. What I've read about the movie matches this longer route much better, so it seems my original assumptions were mistaken. Would be nice to confirm that for certain, though. --Latebird (talk) 23:10, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Okay guys, I can end all this discussion right here, as I took the train from Beijing to Moscow this year (2008). There are three routes. The first is the trans-Siberian. This goes from Vladivostok (Russia) to Moscow (Russia). The second is the trans-Manchurian. This goes from Beijing (China) to Moscow and does indeed cross the Chinese/Russian border directly (the guy above is wrong when he asserts that this is impossible). The third route is the trans-Mongolian. This is the route I took. It goes Beijing to Moscow via Mongolia. The movie is set on the trans-Manchurian route. The train, cabins etc are very accurate. However, there are some inaccuracies in the movie. Firstly, the movie shows the Russian dining car and Russian staff on the train BEFORE it reaches the border. In fact, there is a Chinese dining car and Chinese train staff on the Chinese side of the border (the dining car and staff are changed at the border). Second, the scene where there is a blocked toilet cannot actually happen on the train, as the toilets empty directly onto the tracks. When you flush, a simple lever opens a valve and you can look down and see the tracks rushing by underneath. It would be nigh on impossible for this simple mechanism to fail and become blocked. This is kind of crucial, as the woman could have easily dumped the big matrushka dolls in the toilet and simply flushed them onto the track. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.5.253.175 (talk) 14:01, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

By the way, there is no such thing as a "trans-Siberian express". This is a name used by some travel companies, and mistakenly by some film reviewers, but there is no train with that name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.5.253.175 (talk) 14:04, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

I have done some fact checking and I can confirm that Roy says they cross the border at Zabaykalsk (the Russian side of the Manzhouli border crossing) at 13:20 into the movie (DVD 2008), which definitely means their train is taking the Trans-Manchurian route. In view of Wikipedia's insane phobia for anything remotely suggestive of "original research", I don't know if this information can be incorporated into the main article, but it's here in case anyone can think of an acceptable way to incorporate it that would be great Nude Amazon (talk) 05:03, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Abby's Vancouver

The link to her hoped-for purchase is to Vancouver, B.C. Being American, and from Seattle, it's likely the nearby Vancouver, Washington is intended. Someone might fix the link if it can be verified this was the case. JohndanR (talk) 05:46, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

Box office

Can someone check the box office figures. If correct, they indicate that the film was a major commercial failure. This would be very notable for a film that was well received, well reviewed, and with A-list stars in. Fig (talk) 11:59, 5 January 2012 (UTC)