Talk:Tour de France records and statistics

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First black rider edit

Latest comment: 11 months ago4 comments3 people in discussion

If we're talking records for the TdF, it seems right that the record for the first black rider in the Tour should be included on this page. This is a significant milestone, particularly given it came so recently in the Tour's history. This record has been removed after I added it, but I'd like consensus please. OGBC1992 (talk) 10:37, 31 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

Abdel-Kader Zaaf is sometimes considered the first black rider in the Tour de France in 1948, years before Yohann Gène in 2011. Zaaf had much darker skin and certain physical characteristics specific to black populations that other Tunisian or Algerian riders did not have: Ali Neffati (Tunisian rider, first TdF in 1913), Abdel-Kader Abbes (Algerian in 1936 and 1951), Ahmed Chibane (Algerian in 1947), Ahmed Kebaili (Algerian in 1950), Mustapha Chareuf (Algerian in 1952). Another question: is this a record or a statistic? GabrieL (talk) 13:41, 6 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

User:Paulpat99 and User:OGBC1992, what do you think? GabrieL (talk) 13:44, 6 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

I think this information is relevant just not to this page. It could be included in the main TDF page. Nice work finding these athletes. Maybe a paragraph about how throughout the years there have been black participation. I am not sure. Paulpat99 (talk) 20:11, 6 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

Most starts/finishes edit

Latest comment: 5 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion

I recon there should be a separate chart for most finishes as right now a lot of names are missing. Firestar47 (talk) 08:20, 11 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

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