Talk:Topologist's sine curve

Latest comment: 4 years ago by 85.75.194.216 in topic make page: Fourier analysis on topological space

This page is useless without the figure. Could I scan it from a book? I guess a mathematical figure cannot be copyrighted. wshun 03:50, 9 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Image crashes browser when viewed full-size edit

Seems like this space is too weird for Iceweasel 2.0.0.3 (Debian version of Firefox) ;) Works fine in Konqueror. Functor salad 19:39, 19 July 2007 (UTC)Reply



Image looks inconsistant with definition as the plot goes to negative x and in definition we take x from (0;1]. I may be just wrong though. 83.21.141.16 (talk) 10:36, 26 August 2016 (UTC)Reply

Something's very very wrong here edit

In the article, it says: You take the closure of the graph of sin(1/x) with x\in ]0,1]. The function is bounded, the domain is bounded, hence the graph is bounded. The closure of a bounded set w.r.t. the topology of a finite dimensional euclidean space is always compact. => Therefore, the topologist's sine curve is always compact, hence locally compact. But in the article, it says: "T is the continuous image of a locally compact space (namely, let V be the space {−1} ∪ (0, 1], and use the map f from V to T defined by f(−1) = (0,0) and f(x) = (x, sin(1/x)) for x > 0), but is not locally compact itself."

Later, it says in the article, that you may a variation, named "closed topologist's sine curve", which is now exactly the closure of the graph and therefore - by defintion - equal to the topologist's sine curve. So, the original topologist's sine curve is already the closed one...

I guess that some of the statements in this article refer to another sort of sine curve, where you just add (0,0) to the graph of sin(1/x). Then it would make sense to take the closure of it and then it would not be locally compact, but the image of a locally compact set (even a compact set)

The question is now: When topologists talk about "topologist's sine curve" do they mean the one with the interval or the one with just a point? --131.234.106.197 (talk) 16:42, 26 November 2008 (UTC)Reply

Fixed. I don't know the answer to your last question. In Munkres, the closure is used. –Pomte 16:31, 11 December 2008 (UTC)Reply
thanx--131.234.106.197 (talk) 12:26, 15 December 2008 (UTC)Reply
The current terminology of the article (with 'topologist's sine curve' denoting a non-closed set) is that of Counterexamples in Topology. Algebraist 22:55, 15 January 2009 (UTC)Reply

Hausdorff dimension of this space edit

Is the Hausdorff dimension of this space known exactly or just approximately? Does it exceed 1?
92.105.139.80 (talk) 22:08, 20 January 2010 (UTC)Reply

Graph improvement? edit

I'm not sure how to do this, but it would be neat to come up with a graph whose color becomes darker and/or more saturated to suggest increasing density approaching 0. As it is, at a certain point it just turns into a solid block. --Dfeuer (talk) 17:05, 12 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

Definition: including origin vs interval edit

An anonymous contributor in the last month changed the formula of the definition of the set T to include not just the origin but the whole interval  . This contradicts with the text, and it is a bit confusing, since later in the article the closed version of this set is referenced.

I have thus reverted the change: I think both definitions are used in the literature, so it does not really matter which one we give first, but we should be consistent in the article.

make page: Fourier analysis on topological space edit

My title is very generic. If we make the page we then have to update the title. But the page should be created! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.75.194.216 (talk) 22:10, 22 July 2019 (UTC)Reply