Talk:Tomb Raider (2013 video game)/GA1

Latest comment: 10 years ago by Cabe6403 in topic GA Review

GA Review edit

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Reviewer: Cabe6403 (talk · contribs) 14:47, 8 August 2013 (UTC)Reply

I will take this. Expect some initial comments within a day or so Cabe6403(TalkSign) 14:47, 8 August 2013 (UTC)Reply

Criteria edit

Good Article Status - Review Criteria

A good article is—

  1. Well-written:
  2. (a) the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct; and
    (b) it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.[1]
  3. Verifiable with no original research:
  4. (a) it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline;
    (b) reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose);[2] and
    (c) it contains no original research.
  5. Broad in its coverage:
  6. (a) it addresses the main aspects of the topic;[3] and
    (b) it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).
  7. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
  8. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.
  9. [4]
  10. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
  11. [5]
    (a) media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content; and
    (b) media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.[6]

Review edit

  1. Well-written:
  2. Criteria Notes Result
    (a) (prose) Prose is well written and I find no issues with it   Pass
    (b) (MoS) Other than a few minor MoS things I've highlighted in the discussion area, nothing major needing work   Pass
  3. Verifiable with no original research:
  4. Criteria Notes Result
    (a) (references) All references up to scratch   Pass
    (b) (citations to reliable sources) No issues here   Pass
    (c) (original research) All cited   Pass
  5. Broad in its coverage:
  6. Criteria Notes Result
    (a) (major aspects) Everything seems there   Pass
    (b) (focused) The plot section is, perhaps, a bit lengthy but not drastically so. The rest of the article is great   Pass
  7. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
  8. Notes Result
    Criticism and praise given appropriate sections, no bias evident   Pass
  9. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.
  10. Notes Result
    No evidence of content disputes   Pass
  11. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
  12. Criteria Notes Result
    (a) (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales) Both images correctly tagged   Pass
    (b) (appropriate use with suitable captions)   Pass

Result edit

Result Notes
  Pass Congradulations on a well written article. It was a pleasure to review with only trivial issues I raised below. An easy addition to the GA articles. Cabe6403(TalkSign) 08:49, 9 August 2013 (UTC)Reply

Discussion edit

Please add any related discussion here.

I'm on my initial read through and I notice there is a number of citations in the lead. Per WP:CITELEAD this is permitted but not encouraged as to avoid redundant citations. For example, the sales figures are cited in the lead and later in the article so citing in the lead is unnecessary. Could you please remove any redundant citations in the lead. Cabe6403(TalkSign) 15:07, 8 August 2013 (UTC)Reply

I have done this. The citations for sales figures and general reception have been removed, but I have left in the citations that seemed to be part of the lead or key to it: ie, the hype the game got prior to release, the fact that this was a total reboot of the series. --ProtoDrake (talk) 15:23, 8 August 2013 (UTC)Reply
Great, thanks  Y Cabe6403(TalkSign) 07:45, 9 August 2013 (UTC)Reply

I feel there should be a bit more in the way of blue links, especially for first time use of terms that some may be unfamiliar with. For example, "The game also incorporates RPG elements: as the player progresses through the..." RPG should be piped to Role-playing video game or "Portuguese traders, United States Marines and a Japanese" where US marines could be linked. Again, these aren't strictly necessary but I feel it'd better the article Cabe6403(TalkSign) 07:45, 9 August 2013 (UTC)Reply

Added the links, can't see anything else, but if you want to point anything out, feel free. --ProtoDrake (talk) 08:08, 9 August 2013 (UTC)Reply

This article looks very good and I can find pretty much no issues with it. All I have remaining to do is check the sourcing. If that is to the same standard as the rest of the article then I anticipate an easy pass. Cabe6403(TalkSign) 07:59, 9 August 2013 (UTC)Reply

Additional Notes edit

  1. ^ Compliance with other aspects of the Manual of Style, or the Manual of Style mainpage or subpages of the guides listed, is not required for good articles.
  2. ^ Either parenthetical references or footnotes can be used for in-line citations, but not both in the same article.
  3. ^ This requirement is significantly weaker than the "comprehensiveness" required of featured articles; it allows shorter articles, articles that do not cover every major fact or detail, and overviews of large topics.
  4. ^ Vandalism reversions, proposals to split or merge content, good faith improvements to the page (such as copy editing), and changes based on reviewers' suggestions do not apply. Nominations for articles that are unstable because of unconstructive editing should be placed on hold.
  5. ^ Other media, such as video and sound clips, are also covered by this criterion.
  6. ^ The presence of images is not, in itself, a requirement. However, if images (or other media) with acceptable copyright status are appropriate and readily available, then some such images should be provided.