Talk:Tolkien research

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Chiswick Chap in topic Duplication

The works of J. R. R. Tolkien have generated a body of research covering subjects such as Tolkien... edit

What? The JRR TOlkien and Tolkien pages are both the same. Is there a book called "Tolkien"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.71.181.29 (talk) 16:49, 27 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

Can you clarify what you are asking? Lava Lamps (talk) 17:12, 27 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
I think they've failed to read the first sentence: "... subjects such as Tolkien as a writer of fantasy,". There isn't a page called "Tolkien as a writer of fantasy" but it is certainly a matter of scholarly inquiry. So the question isn't well-formed, or the answer is "there's no such page, read the article again". Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:18, 27 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

Tolklang edit

Is the Tolklang list active? The last file I see in the message archive is from 2013. --Error (talk) 12:15, 9 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

Exactly. Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:17, 9 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

Duplication edit

The article's structure is getting a bit baroque, with for instance two sections and an 'External links' list all named "Journals": it would clearly be better to have just one.

There are also two entries in 'External links' for the 1992 conference proceedings. Since this is evidently an important Tolkien research event, it'd be far better to have a mention of the event in the text, and use both links in a citation.

We already have the major scholars listed and bluelinked as authors of the 'Major introductory books', so I've removed them from 'External links'.

It's hard to see why we'd be going into details such as listing the Stockholm and German Tolkien Societies in 'External links' - these are amateur groups and therefore nothing to do with "Tolkien research" – if any of their members write a scholarly article, it'll be in one of the peer-reviewed journals listed separately. I'll remove them as off-topic now.

In short, I think we can make this article more focused on actual research, and better structured with less in the way of lists. Hope this is all right with everyone. Chiswick Chap (talk) 07:58, 9 August 2022 (UTC)Reply

Some Journals has references, so I've dropped the reflist down one section to catch them.
Ah yes.
The Tolkien Society have a Seminar and Oxonmoot (both annual) but even in their article they only have TS references. We should be looking for independent coverage if they are academically respectable. -- Verbarson  talkedits 22:33, 9 August 2022 (UTC)Reply
That article has many secondary sources. The Tolkien Society's activities include popular meetings as you mention, which we rightly don't discuss here; the society's academic side is the Mallorn journal which is now peer-reviewed and listed as such. Croft 2016 (ref #7) actually called it "reputable" even before it switched over to being fully refereed. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:25, 10 August 2022 (UTC)Reply