Talk:Thunder Force VI

GA Review

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Reviewer: MWright96 (talk · contribs) 14:00, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Am going to review this article as part of the GAN Backlog Drive of April to May 2020. MWright96 (talk) 14:00, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Lead

• "and avoiding collision with them and their projectiles" - and avoiding collisions
• "and was cancelled after Technosoft" - maybe and the game was or production was for clarity
• "The game was intended to be the first under the "Project STG"" - clarify if possible what Project STG is
• "and for being most consisting of "recycled" stages " - for mostly

Gameplay

• "by destroying incoming enemies and avoiding collision with them and their projectiles." - the text in bold can be changed to say avoiding a collision or avoiding collisions
• "both of which had different weapon loadouts and playstyles." - should the word in bold be changed to have?
• "through the game and completing specific objectives.[2][1]" - refs in numerical order please
• "unlike earlier games in the series, the player starts the game with all of them" - repetition of the word "game"
• "without the need to collect them while progressing through stages." - needing to collect them

Development

• "Aside from an early test video showing an early intro sequence" - introduction
• "it was indefinitely shelved during early production stages" - during the early stages of production
• "gathering several designers from Taito and Konami to assist in production.[8][7]" - refs should be placed in numerical order please
• "Ogawa and the development team had to pay close attention to the game's budget to prevent it from becoming too big." - large
• "under the "Project STG"," - please state briefly what "Project STG" is
• "Twenty-One quietly updated their official website announcing their intentions to revive the series with Sega, and announced the game's release." - am certain this sentence can be reworded to remove repetition of the word "announced/ing"

Reception

• "Fans of the series were particularly negative towards the game for failing to live up to prior Thunder Force games and for greatly lacking in both innovation and originality." - repetition of the word "game" in the same sentence
• "but disliked the textures themselves for being ugly" - try using another word other than ugly
• "MeriStation liked the game's weapon variety," - better; the variety of weapons within the game
• "Nintendo Life was critical of the game's short length and lack of unique ideas, disliking that the game simply reused ideas from other games" - same issue as the first in this section
• "specifically criticizing the game simply lifting entire stage ideas" - for simply

References

• Reference 6 should not have the title as archived copy and it is missing the date it was published and the author who wrote the article
• Reference 10 should have its author field made consistent with other references in this article

I shall put the review on hold to allow the nominator to addresss/respond to the queries raised above. MWright96 (talk) 15:57, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

@MWright96:: Addressed all issues. Namcokid47 ^(Contribs) 17:26, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

@Namcokid47: Now promoting to GA class. MWright96 (talk) 18:53, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Misinformation regarding supposed lost Dreamcast version

There is a widespread misconception among fans outside of Japan that Technosoft was midway through development of a Thunder Force VI for Dreamcast that was then cancelled prior to Sega "reviving" the project in the form of the actual released game. There is no evidence that any such Dreamcast game ever existed. They will often point to a rough CG video, claiming it to be a trailer or opening movie for the cancelled game. This video was created by a fan named Garow for an independent project titled TF Forever. Tetsu Okano, who produced both Segagaga and Thunder Force VI, was made aware of it and included it in Segagaga. Here[[1]] is a primary source written by Garow describing making the video and having it included in Segagaga. Furthermore, while Okano gave multiple interviews promoting Thunder Force VI prior to its release, there is no mention of any cancelled Dreamcast version. This false history should be removed from this article. 2600:8804:8001:6E00:19CE:2AB0:63E4:1F1B (talk) 22:29, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

That's not even a primary source, it's a fansite that doesn't have any credibility or supervision from reliable journalists/publications. It should not be used in the article, you'll need to provide reliable, third-party citations to support such a claim. Stop removing sourced content from the article, you're being disruptive. Namcokid47 ^(Contribs) 22:47, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

This is an obscure topic, and I cannot find any professional publication that covers it. The Kotaku and HG101 sources cited regarding the nonexistent Dreamcast version do not themselves support their claims in any way ; it is all just collective misunderstanding caused by a language barrier. Must the falsehood be perpetuated just because they are "publications" and the creator of the content in question is not? Shouldn't the truth be known? 2600:8804:8001:6E00:19CE:2AB0:63E4:1F1B (talk) 23:08, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

This needs verification from reliable publications, that's the entire point of an encyclopedia. This isn't a the sky is blue situation. Namcokid47 ^(Contribs) 23:15, 12 August 2020 (UTC)