Talk:The Lost World (TV series)
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Requested move 10 August 2015 edit
- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: moved. And redirect Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's The Lost World to The Lost World (Conan Doyle novel). Can the proponents of the move please ensure that all the incoming links to the original title are fixed. Jenks24 (talk) 14:47, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's The Lost World → The Lost World (TV series) – Very similar proposal as Talk:The_Duel_(2010_film)#Requested move 13 February 2015, primary topic for "Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's The Lost World" is The Lost World (Conan Doyle novel). An related page is already at List of The Lost World episodes. Timmyshin (talk) 23:12, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
- Oppose – same reason as the related "R. L. Stine's..." RM: the words "Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's..." are right there in the series' title card. Thus, List of The Lost World episodes should likely be properly moved to List of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's The Lost World episodes. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 17:21, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
- Support the current title can also naturally (and in the real world) be used to identify the novel, as a form of natural disambiguation. Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's The Lost World (TV series) would also work; the current title should be redirected as nominator states -- 67.70.32.190 (talk) 04:27, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
- So you're just ignoring the show's title card then? Your second suggestion doesn't seem necessary as the TV series is very likely to be the only thing at Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's The Lost World as the novel will never get moved to that article title; a hatnote (e.g. {{About}}) can easily deal with your concern. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 07:29, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
- How am I ignoring the title card, when I have a suggestion that includes the complete title card? And I think the shortened title meets WP:COMMONNAME for the series anyways, since I don't remember many people using the full title at the time this was aired. Remember WP:OFFICIALNAME and WP:UCN just because a name is official doesn't mean we have to use it. And I have seen several instances where the title of this article has been used to refer to the novel, clarifying it against novels of other authors by the same or similar titles, thus being a NATURALDAB for the novel. I think that the novel would be more likely a topic than the TV series, thus necessitating additional disambiguation. -- 67.70.32.190 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 03:40, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
- So you're just ignoring the show's title card then? Your second suggestion doesn't seem necessary as the TV series is very likely to be the only thing at Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's The Lost World as the novel will never get moved to that article title; a hatnote (e.g. {{About}}) can easily deal with your concern. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 07:29, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
- Reluctantly support. The common name seems to be "The Lost World". ONR (talk) 18:22, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
- Support. Initially leaned "oppose", use the title as the title especially if the shortened title is ambiguous. However, <author> apostrophe s <title> is a styling difference on <title> by <author>. The author name is not really a subtitle, or sub-pre-title. But worse, Doyle is not the author, this is not a literary work, it is a not very special TV series made a hundred years later. The current title is misleading, implying the novel, not a modern TV series based on the novel. If further disambiguation is called for (perhaps due to Lost Worlds (TV series)), then this one should go to The Lost World (1999 TV series), the other to Lost Worlds (2005 TV series). Disambiguation by "The" is not enough, and the "s" is debatable. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 05:36, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
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Addendum: This RM was resolved over six years ago and the redirect changed to The Lost World (Conan Doyle novel) as the new primary topic. However, as there are at least 70 incoming links to that page (pretty much all of them in relation to the TV series) and as one of the requirements of the RM decision above was that the proponents of the move please ensure that all the incoming links to the original title are fixed, I’ve reverted the redirect back to the TV series until this is resolved. That many links being redirected to the wrong page isn't viable, and it's debateable whether the novel will be the best target for the redirect even then. Swanny18 (talk) 22:52, 9 October 2021 (UTC)