Talk:The Lake Isle of Innisfree

Where is all the info from? / Over-analysis / OR

Most of the text comes from "Revision as of 09:40, 18 October 2008", by some anonymous user, with no references. How should we treat this? The text, by my humble opinion, is too long and smacks of an 8th-grader's analysis, or a quote from some book, without references. Is this OR? What do we do with this? Samfreed (talk) 20:53, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

rock song

I don't know if it's significant enough to warrant mention in this article, but the rock band Sir Lord Baltimore recorded an eponymous song (somewhat loosely) based on this poem. If anyone thinks that's important I suppose he or I could add it. --Rosencrantz1 (talk) 04:14, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

The poem is also sampled on The Transit Kings' Living_in_a_Giant_Candle_Winking_at_God. I'm not sure how to fit this into the existing content so I will just leave this here. sugarfish (talk) 19:19, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

Cleanup

I have begun to cleanup this article, trying to give it a proper format and add information that is encyclopedic; all of the content in the analysis section I feel needs to either be greatly changed or removed. Please let me know if you have any questions or would like to help with the project. Mrathel (talk) 20:43, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

The Title (vocative or evocative?)

The article gives the title of the poem as "Lake Isle of Innisfree" (no "The"). This struck me as odd, as it suggests a vocative that is at odds with the poem itself. I "Googled" the title, and every reference that I found, except this article (but including wikisource), gave the title as "The Lake Isle of Innisfree" or, in a few cases, the index form of "Lake Isle of Innisfree, The". Yeats himself said "The Lake Isle of Innisfree" when he introduced his recital on BBC radio in 1935. I have not see the original printing, but the overwhelming majority for "The" suggests that this article is wrong.

But it might not be -- the author might know what everyone else has just assumed, and it might be they who are wrong. So I'll wait a few weeks for a reply to this, then, if nothing is posted to justify omitting the "The", I'll change the title. Wyresider (talk) 13:45, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

• (three weeks later) I've changed the title wherever it appears in the edit window, but the heading and two of the boxes are not represented in the edit window. Guru needed! Wyresider (talk) 22:34, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

As a local Move was possible here, have now requested at WP:RMT. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:08, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Sound recording

There is an actual recording of Yeats reading this poem. Its linked to a sound cloud audio byte on poets.org [on the poem]. It has a very unexpected tone that is genuinely surprising to many people. It must be out of copyright by now, unless there is some kind of remastering that is covered by legal protection. It would be really worthwhile to include in this article to provide readers with context on how Yeats envisioned it being read, which is very different to many modern renderings. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fincle (talk • contribs) 08:14, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

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Source for the use on the Irish passport

Is there a source for the claim that the poem (or part maybe) appears on the Irish passport? I googled it and didn't find any mention. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Phjdf (talk • contribs) 22:52, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

So sorry you had to wait 3 years for a reply, but the source was already there, had you but looked Mark^Dask 15:09, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

Requested move 24 January 2021

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The result of the move request was: Moved (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 00:56, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

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Lake Isle of Innisfree → The Lake Isle of Innisfree – actual title as e.g. The Lady of Shalott etc. etc. and as per Talk page discussion Martinevans123 (talk) 17:06, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

This is a contested technical request (permalink). Martinevans123 (talk) 20:06, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Following on from the thread "The Title (vocative or evocative?)" above. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:06, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support. Appears to be the actual title of a literary work, so in this case the definite article is completely appropriate. I'm someone who usually opposes them, but not in actual titles of works. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:19, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

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Laughable nonsense

The sound file is terrible. Not only are the words actually wrong in several lines (including the first!), but the rhythm and weight of the words is dreadful. Please replace this file with a decent and correct one!

Civility aside, the above is right on the substance. "Inni/s/free" appears to be a fairly common pronunciation among non-Irish, but given this poem's importance to Irish culture and society I really feel like the article should respect the standard Irish pronunciation. (There's also a possibility that "Inni/s/free" was Yeats's own pronunciation, since I don't think he spoke Irish himself and he definitely did not have the same kind of education in Irish place-names as contemporary anglophone Irish do; but if that's the case, then that should be included in the article, not someone reading it in 21st-century British English.) Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 07:12, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

Huh. Found it. [1] His pronunciation, in the grainy recording, is ambiguous, at least to my ear, although I will admit that it may be leaning /s/ and my confirmation bias is acting on this. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 07:15, 25 January 2022 (UTC)