Talk:The Kind Diet

Official website?

Books almost never have official websites, and the website listed is the official website of Silverstone. As such, I think it should be removed. --Ronz (talk) 15:38, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

As I said when I reverted your removal, "official website of the author. Article says she said it was "an interactive extension of my book". If its an interactive extension of a book, then the book article should have it listed in its external link section. Also books are like everything else. If there is an official websites, then the article will list it. Example: Ender's_Game#External_links and all the many books in that series link to the page about it on the author's official website. Dream Focus 16:20, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

It doesn't matter what she calls it. What matters is our policies and guidelines concerning it. --Ronz (talk) 16:24, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

Can you link to whatever policy or guideline you believe says we shouldn't have an external link in an article, that is relevant to the article? Dream Focus 16:25, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

(ec) Books aren't entities that can present information about themselves, so the fundamental purpose of ELOFFICIAL is very hard to meet. Official websites for books are usually publishers' marketing pages, so SOAP. --Ronz (talk) 16:28, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

And movies always have an external link to the official website of those films, and they exist clearly to promote it. Same way for articles about video games, or anything else. Dream Focus 16:29, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

Could you focus on the policy and guidelines?

Ender's Game is an interesting case, being Card's presentation about the book. That's not the case with Kind Diet. This is Silverstone's website, available from the article about her. I think that's enough. --Ronz (talk) 16:34, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

Its the same thing. The information in the book, is on her website, she clearly stating its "an interactive extension of my book". The type of content is the same. A lot of the same information is found in both the book and the website. Thus the external link is relevant. Dream Focus 16:44, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

The Kind Life website is a blog. Card's is a single webpage about the book. Those are not the same.

What information about the book that cannot be included in this article, is provided through the link to the Kind Life website? --Ronz (talk) 17:28, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

Response to third opinion request :

It is entirely within the policy on external links to include a link to the author's website. If the website is overly promotional it should be avoided, but this site seems relevant to the topic at hand. However, I would suggest changing the title to "Author's website", as the word "official" can be misconstrued. Bradv 19:19, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

to include a link to the author's website. I disagree, and I think it's a position that's far more difficult to support. This article is about the book, not the person.

Could someone answer my question, identifying the specific information that is provided by adding the link? --Ronz (talk) 16:19, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

The article is about the content of the book, that what people review, not just the physical object itself. And the content and an extension of it is on that site. I'm not sure how else to explain it to you if you don't understand what two people have already told you. The link is clearly relevant and should be there. Dream Focus 17:55, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

Whether or not the link is useful or not is a matter of consensus. What I was responding to was Ronz's assertion that it is against policy/guidelines to include this link, which is incorrect. Bradv 18:01, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

I'll look see if Silverstone has written a summary of the book, similar to the Card example above. --Ronz (talk) 19:54, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

None I can find. --Ronz (talk) 01:27, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

Doesn't matter. The link is highly relevant to the article's content, thus should be there. If you done arguing, kindly remove your pointless debate tag. Dream Focus 19:40, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

I tried to find a solution to meet the example you gave. Noting it let's others know that it was at least tried.

So why not clearly identify Silverstone and the name of the website? [1] --Ronz (talk) 21:40, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

Either way is fine with me. "Silverstone's Kind Life website" or "Author's website", would be understood by anyone reading the short article. Dream Focus 22:59, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

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