Talk:The Hill (newspaper)

Weekly Newspaper?

From the Hill site:

The Hill – the newspaper for and about the US Congress, is published Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday when Congress is in session and Wednesday only when Congress is out of session.

So is it fair to call The Hill a "weekly newspaper"?--Jersey Devil 14:51, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 08:15, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Conservative Bias

Okay, so some of the articles may lean right, but the paper officially says it is non-partisan and the son of the founder was a Democrat. So where is the "source" for the statement that it is a conservative newspaper? This needs to be sourced or removed. Alphachimera (talk) 17:14, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

The paper says it's non partisan, so that's what an encyclopedia is going by? Oh yeah, but it's left in that it was founded by a "Democratic power broker" because one article states that, even though he was known most for his work with Rockefeller? This place is beginning to exemplify RW bias. Either both should be here or none. If one is deleted but the other is kept by biased mods, this place needs to start publicly outing you mods so you can face consequences. Stop lying to people, pigs

Actually I just undid the revision by 98.108.220.96 . . . so, problem solved. Alphachimera (talk) 17:17, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

Okay, but it is worth noting if there are other reliable sources that consider The Hill to be conservative, or non-partisan, or whatever. Mathew5000 (talk) 22:02, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

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The conservative bias is actually borderline censorship. I have personally had polite and subject-related comments removed because they merely corrected misstatements. Finally, I noticed Disqus is able to show removed comments, and I took screenshots and posted them here.

https://i.gyazo.com/b19cae62da1173b29eab38b119370357.png

https://i.gyazo.com/ce8c8fd79524093b4ec115372d48a38c.png

The comments removed challenge other comments stating Germany is not committed to renewable energy. This occurs in the face of "The Hill stands alone in delivering solid, nonpartisan reporting on the inner workings of Congress and the nexus of politics and business” from the Contact Us link on their site.

I'd like to move the screenshots to the Article page, citing them as examples of censorship and conservative bias.

Furthermore, The Hill appears in numerous self-identified conservative websites, including

http://thenewrevere.com/2015/09/the-top-100-conservative-websites-in-september-2015-2/ where is listed #10 as the most conservative website.

and

http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservative_links where it is listed first under the Media section

and

http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservative_links where it has a summary page of the days top articles

and

http://www.conservativeusa.org/updates where along with Breitbart is the source of conservative news

Hi! Including these screenshots in the article would constitute Original Research and therefore wouldn't be allowed. If you have a Reliable Source that discusses The Hill's commenting enforcement, that could be considered for inclusion. Also, please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four tildes ("~~~~") at the end of your comment. Best, meamemg (talk) 04:35, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

Ownership

Following the link, Jerry Finkelstein died in 2012.

The Hill lists James Finkelstein as the Chairman

Presumably that is the son of Jerry... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.235.109.144 (talk) 22:01, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

References

Conservative Popularity

Thanks @BeenAroundAWhile: for the updates/cleaning. The only remaining source for the conservative popularity section seems to only indicate that it is a popular website. It makes no claim that it is popular among conservatives. Therefore, I'm not seeing what meaningful statement can be made in the article based on the source. I believe the section should be removed. meamemg (talk) 20:55, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

Liberal-leaning bias

The slight to moderate liberal bias has been validated by an acknowledged and trusted source:

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-hill/

I see no valid reason to omit this relevant information for users' information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.14.131.132 (talk) 20:13, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

There is the discussion above where some users thought it was conservative bias. Your source really has it as just off center, so I wouldn't describe it as a liberal bias based on that. I'm not sure what your source for that website being "acknowledged and trusted is". Other sources, such as https://www.allsides.com/news-source/hill have it as center biased. So, I don't see anything as clearly establishing it as liberal biased. Especially not to go in as a definitive statement in the lead. meamemg (talk) 16:15, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

I agree that The Hill has a bias, although not nearly as virulent or pronounced as in many other media entities. Quis separabit? 16:24, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

The Hill using fake comments

The Hill is knowingly using employees of Disqus Commenting systems to post comments and the public should know. https://disqus.com/by/disqus_CkHtcm02kn/

george hanson Chainsaw McGerk 41 minutes ago 
Maybe you should dig a hole under your trailer and hide in it. We’ll let you know when danger has passed.

Reply View in discussion george hanson 
george hanson Chainsaw McGerk 42 minutes ago 
Palestine’s homicide rate is over 8 times lower than ours. Thanks for mentioning it.

2 Reply View in discussion george hanson 
george hanson swampbuggys an hour ago

Laws are not meant to “stop” anything. They are intended to deter. To wit - if drunk driving laws were intended to “stop” drunk driving”, they would have been abandoned long ago, because people still drive drunk. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.12.102.84 (talk) 22:19, 5 February 2018‎

I don't entirely understand this, and that link doesn't prove anything at all as far as I can tell. Regardless, this talk page isn't the place to share original research. User-generated content, such as forum comments, are almost never reliable sources on Wikipedia. If you have a reliable source explaining this, post it. Otherwise, Wikipedia isn't the place to right great wrongs. Grayfell (talk) 00:26, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

Rising YouTube channel

Shouldn't Rising with Krystal Ball and Saagar get its own page? 2601:185:8200:CEE0:7C8A:5845:C1FE:9DB7 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 20:32, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

Could you provide sources that mention the YT channel? Wei4Green · 唯绿远大 19:27, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress

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Update

Propublica has been running some stories that apparently the Hill has some stuff going on with Giuliani. [1] ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 02:47, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Bad Citation Re: Moderate/Conservative Readers

The citation for The Hill having a moderately conservative readership does not directly gather data showing this. Instead it outsources this classification to two other media critic organizations. Per the cited source: "2) Two independent coding schemes — Media bias/Fact check (MBFC) and Allsides (AS) — were used to assign each source as liberal, moderate or conservative." If either MBFC or AS has transparent data behind the classifications they have assigned, then those could be substituted here and the text edited according to what the sources actually show. Jmaranvi (talk) 17:14, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Sorry, forgot to sign. Jmaranvi (talk) 17:15, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

I've removed it. There was no edit summary with it's addition and no corresponding content in the article body. Media bias/Fact check and Allsides are not reliable sources. --Hipal (talk) 01:07, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Disqus Comments Discontinued

Earlier this year, The Hill discontinued the Comment section that was provided by Disqus. Shouldn't that be included in this article? How has that impacted online readership? Stevenmitchell (talk) 02:41, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

The Hill's owners reported setting new online audience / readership records in November 2022: https://www.nexstar.tv/the-hills-midterm-election-coverage-sets-new-audience-record/ ~~~~ Storyteller23 (talk) 02:18, 4 March 2023 (UTC)