Talk:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in New Zealand

Mormon myths and miracles

I'm LDS so I'm not sure how neutral I am here, but the "It is said that Matthew Cowley..." thing seems a bit wierd. Why is it a myth and what is notable about his being assigned to translate LDS scriptures? Dakane2 (talk) 22:40, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

I agree. The information was already in a previous section about the translation, so I removed it from the "myths and miracles" section. I also renamed the section. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 17:12, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

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Orphaned references in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in New Zealand

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Reference named "newsroom":

• From The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Australia: "Facts and Statistics: Statistics by Country: Australia", Newsroom, LDS Church, retrieved 13 April 2021
• From Gordon B. Hinckley: "Beloved Church President, Gordon B. Hinckley, Dies at 97", MormonNewsroom.org, LDS Church, January 27, 2008
• From The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints membership statistics (Canada): "Facts and Statistics: Statistics by Country: Canada", Newsroom, LDS Church, retrieved 13 April 2021
• From The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Tonga: "Facts and Statistics: Statistics by Country: Tonga", Newsroom, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, retrieved 6 May 2021
• From The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in New Caledonia: "Facts and Statistics: Statistics by Country: New Caledonia", Newsroom, LDS Church, retrieved 16 August 2021
• From The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Vanuatu: "Facts and Statistics: Statistics by Country: Vanuatu", Newsroom, LDS Church, retrieved 13 April 2021
• From The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Hawaii: "Facts and Statistics: Statistics by State: Hawaii", Newsroom, LDS Church, retrieved 18 April 2021
• From The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in the Federated States of Micronesia: "Facts and Statistics: Statistics by Country: the Federated States of Micronesia", Newsroom, LDS Church, retrieved 26 July 2021
• From The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in French Polynesia: "Facts and Statistics: Statistics by Country: French Polynesia", Newsroom, LDS Church, retrieved 22 July 2021
• From The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Kiribati: "Facts and Statistics: Statistics by Country: Kiribati", Newsroom, LDS Church, retrieved 22 July 2021
• From The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Fiji: "Facts and Statistics: Statistics by Country: Fiji", Newsroom, LDS Church, retrieved 26 July 2021
• From The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in the Marshall Islands: "Facts and Statistics Marshall Islands". www.newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org. Retrieved April 11, 2020.
• From The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Nauru: "Facts and Statistics: Statistics by Country: Nauru", Newsroom, LDS Church, retrieved 26 July 2021
• From The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Papua New Guinea: "Facts and Statistics: Statistics by Country: Papua New Guinea", Newsroom, LDS Church, retrieved 27 July 2021
• From The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints membership statistics: "LDS Statistics and Church Facts". LDS Newsroom. Retrieved 13 April 2021.
• From The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints membership statistics (United States): "Facts and Statistics: Statistics by Country: United States", Newsroom, LDS Church, retrieved 13 June 2021
• From The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Palau: "Facts and Statistics: Statistics by Country: Palau", Newsroom, LDS Church, retrieved 26 July 2021

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“Indoctrinate”

I’m also LDS, but I do think it is very obviously biased that the word “indoctrinate” is used. I did change this, but it seems to have been reverted. I do not want to be involved in an edit war, so I did not change it again. If anyone thinks that the word is not biased, please let me know why. DORITO BOSS (talk) 00:54, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

I agree with you. This is a very biased word. VMDraper (talk) 01:08, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

It's a proselytising religion. That's an entirely appropriate word.-gadfium 01:17, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

One can be indoctrinated but not converted. Someone in the group might change a belief but not get baptized and indoctrinate covers all that are influenced by teachings. Influence might be a more suitable word to describe the situation, but I'm good with whatever the remaining consensus comes up with - as long as it's correctly defines the situation.-- Dmm1169 (talk) 07:55, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

Indoctrinate means "to teach false doctrine" There is an obvious bias. Influence is a better word. I'm going to change it if no one else will. VMDraper (talk) 14:35, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

The word does not imply the doctrine is false. What dictionary are you using?-gadfium 17:16, 10 February 2023 (UTC)