Talk:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Montana

Listing of local congregations

{For reference, this comment is also listed on the talk pages about the church's activities in North and South Dakota.} Since there really isn't much to this page, including contributions from editors over time, not sure how much visibility this topic will receive. However, I wanted to raise a question about recent good faith edits, since this is how consideration of issues are dealt with, rather than direct messages between editors. Viewing the history, it will be noted that I have removed the good faith edits to add every ward and branch which currently exist in North Dakota. As the edit summaries indicate, I do not think these are warranted based on WP not being a directory. Additionally, it's also not easy to verify the information through secondary sources, to maintain the list over time, or have the listing of each be at all notable (in the WP sense). Using a Google maps link, or directing to a general search on the church's website do not meet the standard of reliable sources. I would recommend they be deleted, but certainly would be open to WP community consensus. Those wishing to edit the article would typically express the reasoning or justification for why the listing is warranted. (I don't necessarily disagree with part of the notion that the stakes aren't that notable, although they don't tend to change as much, particularly in some geographical areas, perhaps like Montana.) Finally, any editors who potentially have a conflict of interest, either through being paid or as assigned volunteers, should be sure to disclose such. ChristensenMJ (talk) 17:09, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

I'm just now viewing this talk page, but I would say it depends on how notable the unit is to the overall article. For example, the United Arab Emirates has a stake that covers 3 countries, and every Catholic church in that country seems to have its own wikipedia page (there's only a handful). A listing and map of every congregation is shown and notable enough to be shown. On the other hand, Stakes in Utah or Mexico aren't notible enough for the article to be listed. My rule of thumb is if there's 10 or fewer congregations, it can be notable to be shown. More than 25 stakes, one may need to reconsider its placement. There's also hybrid listings such as India, and Mongolia where meetinghouses far out from the stakes are listed and those within stakes and districts are only labeled by stake/district.Dmm1169 (talk) 02:56, 22 May 2021 (UTC)