Talk:The Beatles (The Original Studio Recordings)/Archive 1

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Name of Box Set

Why is this article entitled 'The Beatles Stereo Box Set' and why does it refer to the box set with that name? Nowhere on the packaging is this title used. The box set is named "The Beatles." The mono box is "The Beatles in Mono." Why create an arbitrary name for the box set? It should be changed to "The Beatles" with disambiguation used to separate it from The Beatles (artist) and The Beatles (album) [i.e. the White Album.]ExampleOfHumanBeing (talk) 16:55, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

For ordering purposes, "The Beatles Stereo Box Set" is the title given by vendors such as Barnes & Noble at [1] and Amazon at [2]. Steelbeard1 (talk) 17:30, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Good point, but I don't think Wikipedia should be beholden to retailing titles. If someone physically picked up the box and looked at it, there's absolutely no reference to 'The Beatles Stereo Box Set.' If a majority of etailers or retailers start labeling the 1980 Peter Gabriel album as Melt, that doesn't change the title of the album. It's still a self-titled Peter Gabriel album. Why pick the dumbed-down approach? ExampleOfHumanBeing (talk) 17:55, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Also, The Beatles store (link available via thebeatles.com) refers to the set as "The Beatles." ExampleOfHumanBeing (talk) 18:00, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

"The Beatles" is also the official title of their 1968 two-record set. If you look at the aforementioned Beatle online store, they gave the same title to the mono box set. Now how do you tell tham apart? Steelbeard1 (talk) 18:08, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

I'm just saying why not use the official packaging title of "The Beatles" and not something just grabbed from a website? Where on the packaging are you seeing the words "The Beatles Stereo Box Set"? ExampleOfHumanBeing (talk) 01:00, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Again, that title is already used for the two record set known popularly as The White Album. Rolling Stone magazine in its review adds a colon to the prevailing title at [3]. Steelbeard1 (talk) 02:44, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

So? Peter Gabriel has a bunch of self-titled albums. They're all referred to as "Peter Gabriel" and then disambiguation is used to tell them apart by using the year of release. The name of the albums isn't changed to reflect Wikipedia's shortcomings. This may be mind-blowing to you but both the album known as The White Album and this new box set have the same title. Wikipedia can and should use disambiguation to tell them apart. An incorrect title that's convenient is still incorrect. Also, you keep citing publications and etailers that use different names as if they bolster your case. They don't. The name of the box set is "The Beatles" regardless of what third parties use to make searching easier for their users. ExampleOfHumanBeing (talk) 13:28, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

What about Led Zeppelin IV? That is not the official title of that album which is actually four symbols, one of which can be pronounced as "Zoso." But for titling reasons, the prevailing name is Led Zeppelin IV. Steelbeard1 (talk) 15:51, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

I've seen it referred to as The Beatles in Stereo on a bunch of sites. More than I've seen it referred to as this name, anyway.--Kaizer13 (talk) 06:56, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Actually, I think it is normally referred to as "The Beatles Remastered Stereo Box Set"69.114.76.221 (talk) 07:02, 21 November 2009 (UTC)AR

Number of CDs in box set

16? 14 CDs (11 regular albums, Yellow Submarine, Magical Mystery Tour and Past Masters) and one DVD. What is the 16th disk? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.29.77.101 (talk) 19:30, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Remember that the white album and Past Masters are both two-CD sets. So that's four CDs with these two albums. That's why there are 16 CDs in this box. Steelbeard1 (talk) 20:29, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

OK, 16 CDs and one DVD---that's 17! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.29.77.101 (talk) 21:01, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

The DVD is mentioned in the article as a "bonus feature" if you look at the article. I've done some clarification in the article to reflect your concerns. Steelbeard1 (talk) 02:44, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Destroyed or erased?

I doubt the line "The master two-track session tapes were destroyed, as was common practice at Abbey Road studios, once they were mixed down to mono for single release." is correct. I assume the tapes were erased and used again. Not literally destroyed. Am I right? 94.143.177.172 (talk) 08:36, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

I believe the tapes were wiped after the mono mixdown. Steelbeard1 (talk) 19:46, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

In other words erased, not destroyed. Thanks for the correction. 94.143.177.172 (talk) 23:25, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Article should include "Packaging Defects" section

I'll leave the final decision to the main editor of this article, but I think a PACKAGING DEFECTS section should be added. I have read many complaints that because the CDs are in digi-paks instead of jewel cases, the fragile digi-paks fall apart very easily, and there are many reports of some CDs having glue residue on them. Also, there is a typo on Magical Mystery Tour, listing the documentary as Let It Be. Azariah Marvel (talk) 16:50, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

The defect on early batches of the MMT CD is already mentioned in the Magical Mystery Tour article. Steelbeard1 (talk) 17:00, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

1962-1966 and 1967-1970

This two albums are being remasterd into two CD sets (much like in 1993) to be released later this year as additions to the Beatles remasters. If you need a external link, visit both album pages and one can easily be found under '2010 Remaster'... sub-section under the 'Release Varations' section. I'm wondering if they will have the sides that the other 14 masters do.--77.99.231.37 (talk) 19:54, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Supporting link, please. Steelbeard1 (talk) 20:37, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

http://www.emimusic.com/news/2010/the-beatles%E2%80%99-classic-1973-%E2%80%98red%E2%80%99-and-%E2%80%98blue%E2%80%99-collections-remastered-by-apple-corps-ltd-and-emi-music-for-worldwide-release-in-october --77.99.231.37 (talk) 15:44, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

"Yes it is"

The claim that the true stereo version of "Yes It Is" was first released on a promotional cassette offered by Heineken Beer in 1986 must be backed by a linked citation. Otherwise, it will be reverted to the 1988 wide release date of the first disc of Past Masters. Steelbeard1 (talk) 20:30, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

A suitable citation was found so the text was rewritten based on the citation. Steelbeard1 (talk) 22:57, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Yellow Submarine Songbook This reissue CD does not contain the 2009 remastered versions or anything similar. It conatains the 1999 remixed versions from the 1999 album/CD. Only the packaging was updated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.243.65.6 (talk) 14:40, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

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Article name change

I see that this article has recently been renamed. Could someone please provide a reference to support that the official name of this product is The Beatles Stereo Boxed Set? Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 00:51, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

Can anyone provide a reference that the official name is The Beatles Stereo Box Set? Radiopathy •talk• 13:35, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

The Beatles official store uses the term "Box Set" in many places such as The Japan Box Set, The U.S. Albums Box Set, the Memorabilia Box Set, and the Vinyl Box Set. AllMusic also names it The Beatles: Stereo Box Set.

It was presumptuous to rename "box set" to "boxed set" in the Beatles albums in light of the two failed rename discussions: move request of Box set to Boxed set, and at Infobox album to rename the type "box set" to "boxed set".

The terminology "box set" was recently changed to "boxed set" at The Beatles, The Beatles CollectionThe Beatles Box Set, The Beatles in Mono, The Beatles Stereo Boxed Set (this discussion), The Dark Horse Years 1976–1992, and Past Masters, and should be reverted IMHO. CuriousEric 17:27, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

• Comment - It is not presumptuous to use the correct term. "Box set" is a bastardisation of the correct term - lazy and ignorant. I realise that this clashes with WP:COMMONNAME and the general tendency here to cater to the lowest common denominator, but someone's got to do it. Radiopathy •talk• 23:50, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

Sound on Sound, Allmusic and Pitchfork - three reliable sources all say it's "box set", so that's what we should use. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 20:02, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

Also, The Beatles Store uses "Boxset" and "Box set". GoingBatty (talk) 23:40, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

You mean "the Beatles Store", don't you? Radiopathy •talk• 23:50, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

Nope, I mean "The Beatles Official UK/EU Store", but that's a different conversation. GoingBatty (talk) 00:05, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

It appears like it is 3:1 in favor to revert back to "Box set". Do we need more of a consensus? CuriousEric 03:01, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

Leave it for another day or two, and if there are no other comments, then I would suggest we have consensus. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 11:48, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

Nowhere on the packaging is it referred to as "The Beatles Stereo Boxed Set" or "The Beatles Stereo Box Set." Why argue over two arbitrary names, neither of which are correct? The name of the release is "The Beatles" regardless of what it's called on any web page.ExampleOfHumanBeing (talk) 19:19, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

The name of the "White Album" is also The Beatles, so this article would need to be named The Beatles (box set) to differentiate it from The Beatles (album) if that were the case. The websites below don't agree on the title, but two of them agree on The Beatles (The Original Studio Recordings), perhaps we should use that as the article title.

www.amazon.com lists it as: The Beatles (The Original Studio Recordings) Box set, Original recording remastered

The Grammys list it as: The Beatles (The Original Studio Recordings)

www.amazon.co.uk lists it as: The Beatles Box Set - Remastered in Stereo Box set, Collector's Edition, Original recording remastered

www.thebeatles.co.uk list it as: Remastered Stereo Box Set CD

AllMusic lists it as: The Beatles: Stereo Box Set (probably the origin of the article name)

(Not shouting, just bolding as shown on the websites.) A fundamental discussion is whether "Box set" in general should be changed to "Boxed set", as done in other articles. CuriousEric 22:33, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

This seems an appropriate place to note that the Official Charts Company lists it as The Beatles in Stereo. I'm not suggesting this is an official title (the OCC's principal concern would be to distinguish it from the mono box set issued the same day, which charted separately), I'm noting it more to ensure that anyone using the OCC site as a source doesn't overlook it on account of their eccentric pseudo-titling. --31.54.245.152 (talk) 17:13, 28 January 2017 (UTC)