Talk:That Which Survives

Latest comment: 5 months ago by 2600:8807:5400:28F0:D56:83F3:7C70:DBAC in topic The journey would still have taken them around 100 years?

The journey would still have taken them around 100 years? edit

If the Enterprise was thrown around 1000 light years away, and they returned at around warp factor 8, surely the journey would still have taken them around 100 years? PatGallacher (talk) 20:23, 22 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

Ok, I misunderstood warp factor, but it would still take them around 16 years. PatGallacher (talk) 01:18, 24 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

The old ST Technical Manual described warp speed as the cube of the warp factor in light years. So warp 8 by this old method would have been 512 times the speed of light, so at the maximum it would have taken them about 2 years to travel this distance. However, future episodes and the Next Generation has made warp speed more of hyperbolic exponential gradient. Since canon is what we see on the screen, and they have never produced anything on screen that tells us what is really going on, it's really just speculation and what the writers want to say at the moment. StarHOG (Talk) 02:31, 25 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

I had this same question (should have taken two years). But then Scotty says that it "feels wrong". The issue is also noted (but no solution offerred) here: https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/That_Which_Survives_(episode)

"At warp 8.4 traveling 990.7 light years would take 1.67 years, not 11.33 hours (which would equate to 766,486c or warp 91.5)."

Here, https://www.tor.com/2016/08/31/star-trek-the-original-series-rewatch-that-which-survives/ , ChristopherLBennett points out that at this speed "Voyager should’ve been able to cover 70,000 ly in a bit over five weeks."

Drsruli (talk) 05:16, 1 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

Scott did mention it would take a long time. For part of the trip they were over warp 14. What does that do to the time for the trip? 2600:8807:5400:28F0:D56:83F3:7C70:DBAC (talk) 08:53, 17 November 2023 (UTC)Reply