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Texas Raiders article errors edit

After reading the article I found a number of errors. The following are comments on the sections of the article in error and a rewrite of section VW-1

The PB-1W is Born Comment: The two 310 gallon auxiliary under wing fuel tanks were only installed for long distance positioning of the aircraft, such as flights from the California to Hawaii. They were never used during normal operations. The standard fuel load for a mission was 2780 gallons. The Max Operational Endurance was 16.0 Hours.

VW-1 “Her last military assignment was with Navy Squadron VW-1 based at NAS Barbers Point, Oahu, Hawaii with random deployments to NAS Atsugi, located in the shadows of Mt. Fuji, on the main island of Japan. Ironically, the base was originally built in 1938 by the Japanese Imperial Navy as Emperor Hirohito's Naval Air Base to oppose the threat of American bombing raids. Her primary mission was AEW, 77235/TE-12 also occasionally flew a ASW mission or was on standby for Air/Sea Search and Rescue missions. BuNo 77240/TE-6 took her turn at these flights as well. While assigned to VW-1, 77235 was assigned the VW-1 tail code of “TE” and was aircraft number 12 (callsign: TE-12).”

Comments: 1. From June 1952 to July 1961 VW-1 was a “Tactical AEW” Squadron flying AEW missions and Pacific Barrier Patrols and was not named the “Typhoon Trackers” during this time. Neither PB-1W’s 77235/TE-12 or 77240/TE-6 flew weather reconnaissance missions during their time in VW-1 from January 1953 to January 1955 when 77235/TE-12 was flown to NAF Litchfield Park, Arizona and placed in storage. 77240/TE-6 having been transfer out in January 1954 and replaced in February 1954 by 77235/TE-12.

2. VW-1 was based at NAS Barbers Point, Oahu, Hawaii, from June 1952 until moving to NAS Agana, Guam in 1957, at that time flying only the Lockheed WV-2 Warning Star aircraft . On July 1, 1961 the Squadron’s primary mission was changed to Weather Reconnaissance and the Squadron assumed the name “Typhoon Trackers.” Between February 1954 and January 1955, 77235/TE-12 was deployed from time to time to NAS Atsugi, Japan and assigned to VW-1 Detachment A.

3. 77235/TE-12 never operated in Korea during the Korean War! 77235 was assigned to VW-1 in February 1954 well after the end of the Korean War. The VW-1, PB-1W aircraft that served in Korea were 77226/TE-4, 77231/TE-5 & 77234/TE-7. Missions flown in Korea averaged 14.0 hours. ( Our crew flew four missions in 77231/TE-5 and seven missions in 77234/TE-7)

4. On her last official Navy flights, 77235/TE-12 departed Hawaii in the evening of January 14, 1955 with a fuel load of 3400 gallons and a minimum crew of six. We arrived at NAS Moffett Field, California in the morning of January 15,1955 after a flight of 14.7 hours. We spent the night in San Francisco and in the afternoon of January 16, 1955 we flew to NAF Litchfield Park, Arizona, arriving in the late afternoon after a flight of 3.8 hours. 77235/TE-12 was placed in “flyable” storage and subsequently removed from the Navy Inventory on July 10, 1957

End of an Era Comment: There were only two PO-1W’s (WV-1) ever built for the Navy. VW-1 had one from Dec. 1952 to February 1955. Our first Lockheed WV-2 Warning Star arrived in April 1954 and by January 1955, when the PB-1W’s were phased out, VW-1 had a full complement of WV-2 Warning Stars. The WV-2’s were known as “Willie Victors” not “Whiskey Victors.”

If you are interested in the complete history of SquadronVW-1, and the individual aircraft histories, log onto the Squadron’s web-site at: http://vw1assoc.tripod.com/index.html

George E. Stewart USN Veteran (VW-1 June 1952 - Nov, 1955) VW-1 Plane Captain (Crew Chief) of 77235/TE-12

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Categories edit

ZLEA reverted my addition of three categories to this article. Opening for discussion as to whether or not there is consensus for the addition of Category:Aviation accidents and incidents in Texas, Category:Aviation accidents and incidents in 2022 and Category:November 2022 events in the United States to this article. Mjroots (talk) 15:36, 14 November 2022 (UTC)Reply

We do not usually include categories pertaining to a crash in the article about the aircraft if a separate article covering the crash exists, as one does for this case. - ZLEA T\C 15:40, 14 November 2022 (UTC)Reply
Examples of aircraft with their own articles with separate crash articles include The Galloping Ghost (aircraft) (2011 Reno Air Races crash) and Nine-O-Nine (2019 Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress crash). Both of these cases do not have categories pertaining to the crash in the aircraft article. - ZLEA T\C 15:43, 14 November 2022 (UTC)Reply
Which isn't to say that they couldn't have the relevant categories added, subject to consensus. Mjroots (talk) 15:50, 14 November 2022 (UTC)Reply
The relevant articles are already in those categories. I don't believe adding articles which cover the same events in minor detail would be helpful. - ZLEA T\C 16:11, 14 November 2022 (UTC)Reply
Adding those categories seems to make little sense, as ZLEA points out, there is a separate article for the crash that is already part of these categories. – Recoil (talk) 16:29, 14 November 2022 (UTC)Reply

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