Talk:Ted Nugent/Archive 3

Archive 1

Archive 2

Archive 3

New Stuff

New stuff and "solo career" are given huge space, yet pre-1980's history is, well, no existent. Could the reason be that Ted Nugent Astro Turffer be at work? 2601:8:9180:604:219:D1FF:FEA8:25F0 (talk) 18:56, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Unable to marry

It is not correct that "Due to the age difference they could not marry" [Nugent and "seventeen-year-old Hawaii native Pele Massa"]. They couldn't marry because Nugent was already married. Apart from that there was no legal impediment to marriage. Age different is not a legal impediment.Royalcourtier (talk) 23:26, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Got any sources? Meatsgains (talk) 17:35, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

Unreliable source

@Instaurare: do you mean the Detroit Free Press is unreliable? [1] as reported in Media Matters For America [2], Salon (website) [3], Houston Press [4], Huffington Post [5], Wikiquote [6] etc. zzz (talk) 04:49, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Detroit Free Press was not the source cited. Media Matters and Salon are certainly not reliable. Instaurare (talk) 18:26, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Detroit Free Press is the original interview from 1990, which is cited in all the other refs. The Media Matters ref is useful, because it contains a link to the entire interview. --zzz (talk) 11:47, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

Possible vandalism by KamiBroyles

Between February and May 2016, User:KamiBroyles made a series of edits to this page removing controversial elements of Ted Nugent's life (see Special:Contributions/KamiBroyles). Given that these edits were made with no discussion, are clearly one-sided, and the user has made no major edits outside of this page, it's clear that these edits constitute vandalism and should be reverted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:5500:34:37FF:6C6C:3C1:B7A:D122 (talk) 23:23, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

No, it's not clear from what you say above that those edits constitute vandalism. (Yes, your description makes it likely that they're vandalism; but the likelihood of vandalism isn't vandalism.) I could take a look and see whether or not they are vandalism, but I can't be bothered. And why not? Attribute it to my laziness if you like, but the edits were made months ago, since which time (i) other editors have been at work on this article, and (ii) this editor has dropped out.

A more important matter: Putting aside KamiBroyles' motivation in editing, did they remove any material that (i) really should not have been removed and (ii) hasn't subsequently been reinstated? If so, please specify this material (and its sources) below. -- Hoary (talk) 08:30, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

Chop off their heads

Ted Nugent said in 2012 of Obama, Biden, HRC: "We should ride in there and chop their heads off". Why is this quote not on the main page???

Even if you have a source to confirm, it would more than likely be WP:UNDUE. Meatsgains (talk) 01:10, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

Band members

I just saw Nugent in concert. Jason sang backing vocals and Greg sang the lead on a couple songs, I think that backing vocals should be added to Jason and lead vocals should be added to Greg. 4Guitars (talk) 15:14, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

Percussion in infobox

Nugent is well-known for his percussion playing? Or equally as well-known as for his guitar playing?? I realise the article says "Ted Nugent – lead guitar, vocals, bass, percussion (1974–present)" in the "Band members" section, but this is the only mention in the entire article. And it's wholly unsourced. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:12, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Joe Rogan Experience

He was on the Joe Rogan podcast a couple of days ago (6/28/18). In it (towards the end), he says he made up the story about the draft dodging, because the people who interviewed him never got the facts right anyway, so he started messing with them. He also says the 4-F classification in Wikipedia is inaccurate. 206.174.231.219 (talk) 01:02, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

Military Service

Mr. Nugent appears to represent all things conservative including gun rights. His bio does not mention a college education and based on his age, he was prime draft material. In the interest of full disclosure, it would be appropriate to disclose why he choose not to serve his country or provide comment on why he was not called. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.81.222.160 (talk) 02:32, 2 April 2018‎ (UTC)

Do you have any sources? Martinevans123 (talk) 19:28, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

"He did indeed receive a high school student deferment (1-S) in 1967 and then (as he stated) a college student deferment (2-S) in 1968. However, he was reclassified as “available for military service” (1-A) in 1969 and then subsequently rejected as a result of a physical examination and given a 1-Y classification. (The 1-Y classification denoted persons “qualified for service only in time of war or national emergency” and was generally assigned to registrants who had exhibited medical conditions that were limiting but not disabling.) After the 1-Y classification was eliminated by the Selective Service at the end of 1971, Nugent was reclassified as 4-F (“registrant not qualified for any military service”)." [7] zzz (talk) 20:37, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

I am dubious of the current account of how he ended up not being drafted, even if there are sources for it. It is hard to believe that a man as extraordinarily patriotic as Nugent, as tough as Nugent, with Nugent's incredible marksmanship skills, would dodge the draft. You would think he would have been eager to join the military. Timothy Horrigan (talk) 10:44, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

In all seriousness, there are no non-primary sources saying he deliberately failed his draft physical at all, let alone that he failed it by pooping in his pants for a week. His recent interview with Joe Rogan is also a primary source. I think it's fine to report that he has made various claims about his draft physical. His selective service record is a non-primary source and it shows that he failed a draft physical at a time which doesn't contradict (but also doesn't prove) his various tales. Timothy Horrigan (talk) 04:36, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

it would be interesting to read in the article a little bit more regarding his college career...did he have a major ? sociology ? physiology  ? elementary education ? music ? art  ? how long did he stick it out ? what kind of grades did he make ? did he sing in the glee club ? just curious 2600:1702:2340:9470:418C:5849:5BFF:3FE5 (talk) 01:29, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

"Notorious liars at snopes"

Nugent further stated that his 4-F rating on Wikipedia was "made up,"[22] despite the fact that the article sourced it to the notorious liars at snopes.[19][23]

New to this Wikipedia editing thing, so not sure if this is the right place to ask about this. The end of this sentence seems a bit weird. --73.136.69.61 (talk) 04:28, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

•  Done. Thanks for the note. I reverted the vandalism you saw. Binksternet (talk) 07:08, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Misuse of "dubious" tag

The part with his interview on the Joe Rogan show says

He also stated he was eligible for military service and passed a draft physical in 1969

And this was tagged as "dubious". Well the tag is only appropriate if it is dubious that he said it, not if it's dubious that what he said was true. See the difference? So I removed it, and lets use our tags correctly lads. Herostratus (talk) 04:20, 3 October 2019 (UTC)