Talk:Te Kawerau ā Maki

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Move from Te Kawerau to Te Kawerau-ā-Maki edit

Latest comment: 10 years ago3 comments1 person in discussion

I can find no record of an iwi called "Te Kawerau", and this page has never had any references. I assume the iwi in question is Te Kawerau-ā-Maki (whose website is tekawerau.iwi.nz), an iwi whose heartland was the Waitākere Ranges, but once extended north to Cape Rodney (all within the Auckland region, not Northland).[1] I'm going to move this page to Te Kawerau-ā-Maki and change {{Iwi}} for now, as Te Kawerau-ā-Maki should be included on Wikipedia. If there is in fact a seperate iwi called Te Kawerau from Northland, a new page (with at least one reference) could be created at "Te Kawerau", and {{Iwi}} can also be updated again to reflect this. I've contacted the editor who created this article to see if that's the case, but they haven't been active on WP for about 5 months, so I may not get a response.

As a side note, Te Kawerau-ā-Maki can also also be styled as Te Kawerau ā Maki, Te Kawerau a Maki, or Te Kawerau-a-Maki, but none of these variations seems more prominent in reliable sources than the others. So I'm using both the macron and the dashes in the title because this is consistent with other iwi and hapū articles where macrons and dashes are used when they are inconsistently used in reliable sources. However this page could be moved to one of those other variations if other editors thought it more appropriate. TimofKingsland (talk) 04:43, 7 December 2013 (UTC)Reply

Further research shows that Te Kawerau is a name used for this Auckland iwi very rarely, such as in Statistics NZ's data tables (e.g. 2013 Census QuickStats about Māori – tables). The article should still be at Te Kawerau-ā-Maki though (or some variation of this), because this is by far the most common name used for the iwi in reliable sources. TimofKingsland (talk) 05:05, 7 December 2013 (UTC)Reply

Another reason to move this page is that Te Kawerau was the name of a now-extinct Bay of Plenty iwi who are said to have migrated to Auckland and have links with Te Kawerau-ā-Maki, according to Te Ara: The Encyclopedia of New Zealand. TimofKingsland (talk) 11:56, 7 December 2013 (UTC)Reply

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