Talk:Taken (2016 TV series)

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Discussion has concluded; the archive is at Talk:Taken (2017 TV series) AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 17:29, 11 February 2019 (UTC) updated 15:19, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Requested move 12 February 2019

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The result of the move request was: Moved (non-admin closure) Iffy★Chat -- 15:32, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

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Taken (2016 TV program) → Taken (2016 TV series) – With 3 seasons, and 39 weekly episodes, this does not fall under the designation "program" as defined at WP:NCTV. This is a series. --woodensuperman 09:10, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

• Move as per the sensible arguments made in the previous RM. The Drover's Wife (talk) 09:15, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
• Support per nom. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:52, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose for now – let's get some consensus to fix WP:NCTV first, and then we can figure out what to do with these. But NCTV as currently written makes this a "TV program" (i.e. standalone episodes) not a "TV series" (with continuing story elements), so the claim in the RM proposal in inaccurate. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 15:15, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Per WP:NCTV, "series television" applies here as it is an episodic television show, that expresses a unifying theme, aired only part of the year, and was produced as a set or cycle of episodes usually called a season. The claim in the proposal is not inaccurate. --woodensuperman 15:35, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

It could go either way given the self-contained aspect of the episodes, but the alias should be made after it's settled. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 16:37, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Not really, "non-series television shows tend to be produced on either an on-going basis (airing daily or weekly) or as a one-time event". This is not produced on an on-going basis, nor is it a one time event. The "self-contained" element follows the "on-going" clause: "Each episode of an on-going show usually is self-contained with little connection to other episodes." --woodensuperman 16:50, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

• Support, considered a TV series since it "express a unifying narrative theme" (TV program) can be retained as an alias. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 15:24, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
• Support - We have a (TV series) disambiguator, so shouldn't it be used match what the "real world" also describes as a "series"? The Taken official website (https://takentheseries.com), network website[1], press releases[2], and secondary coverage[3][4] all absolutely refer to it as a series. Their Twitter handle is @takentheseries and their official Facebook is /takentheseries/ . Everything about this show screams at us "series" - its one of the clearest examples I've ever seen. So, if some editors are somehow arriving at the conclusion that we should not call it a (TV series), then either the guideline is unclear, they are confused, or they are advocating removal of (TV series) as a valid option. -- Netoholic @ 19:45, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Netoholic, good point about the website calling themselves takentheseries. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 20:29, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

• Support per WP:NCTV, piles and piles of RM precedent, and basic WP:COMMONSENSE. I don't buy the "I say the guideline is broken, so it should be fixed first" shtick, since a) there is no evidence consensus considers it broken, and b) we do not suspend compliance with any WP:P&G pages just because someone takes issue with a line-item in one of them.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  00:29, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
• Support per all the above comments. Calidum 03:29, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

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