Talk:TWA Flight 159/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Suomi Finland 2009 (talk) 01:26, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Review is in progress. The formal checklist will be used soon.

The following optional suggestions are made:

• Consider spelling out Trans World Airlines in the first sentence if that is the formal name of the airline.
• First sentence, consider specifying that it was on takeoff at Cincinnati.
• Check if Greater Cincinnati Airport was the name in 1967. Probably the name was not Greater Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport, which sounds like a modern contraption.
• Flight history section: Was DAL used as an abbreviation in 1967? Or was it DL?
• Conflicting fact: Lede says one person eventually died. Flight history section says nobody injured. Maybe no one was apparently injured at first but 2 were hospitalized and one died?
• Any photos? If none, any good photos of a TWA Boeing 707 or Delta DC-9? Part of the problem may be a copyright problem preventing use of some photos.
• Doesn't New York have several airports? JFK Airport?
• Put dates in the same format, 5 January 1969 or January 5, 1969.
• Reference has an unnecessary red link. Reference 2 has a typo, a gap. Funny, why Ellensburg, WA reference?
• Is it useful to mention how big the panel is so what is a majority?
• Are there different types of Boeing 707's?
• Optional: Was the crew disciplined?
• Is this a good source of information? http://bulk.resource.org/courts.gov/c/F2/490/490.F2d.1036.72-2211.html
• Should there be runway information and a diagram of the airport runways (see reference above, does this help answer the question).

Suomi Finland 2009 (talk) 01:41, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

• I left the "TWA" in the first sentence since that's the name of the article. The second sentence makes it clear that TWA = Trans World Airlines. After I finish with these other edits I'll go see if other TWA accidents did the same thing, or if they used the full company name in the first sentence. Changed as per usage in TWA Flight 800.
• Greater Cincinnati was the name in 1967. It's since become Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky, which is "Greater Cincinnati Airport" redirects.
• Added crash location to first sentence.
• Yes, DAL was used. See the NTSB report reference. It's never been DL, because it's Delta Air Lines. (or Delta Airlines, depending on who's writing.)
• Nobody was seriously injured, according to all sources. The person later died in the hospital. I think it was smoke inhilation, but I don't have a source. I reworded the sentence(s).
• Nope. I checked Commons -- there are no photos. The Boeing 707s are everything but TWA, and the closest I could find to a Delta DC-9 was a Delta DC-7 which is not even the same type of aircraft. The accident report only contains some uninteresting diagrams, no photos. Flickr has nothing.
• None of my sources are able to tell me which New York airport it was flying from. Even the NTSB accident investigation report just says it was a New York-Los Angeles flight with one stopover. And yes, there are a number of New York airport -- JFK, LaGuardia, White Plains to name a few.
• Dates are handled with a {{date}} template, but I suppose I missed one. Fixed.
• The Ellensburg newspaper article was the only free newspaper article on the crash I could find in the Google news archive. The redlink is a problem with the template itself, which I've changed (though it might change back to being linked if the rabid folks at {{ASN accident}} decide to revert.)
• NTSB reviews for major accidents are always conducted by five investigators. I've added that to the article, though this usually isn't mentioned in aircrash articles. (Nor is there usually a minority report in aircrash articles.)
• All aircraft have different types. The Boeing 707 article mentions a few. It's really a very nit-picky detail, but for the sake of completeness, it's included.
• Oh cool, a court case. I had not seen that, but it is a fine source. I will read the decision forthwith and incorporate information about the lawsuit into the article. And no, I cannot tell if the crew was disciplined, or at least found no mention in contemporary news articles.
• Diagrams and maps might be useful if they existed, but really it only takes place on a single runway whose position is not at all that important. Unfortunately the diagram on the airport article is of the 2006 layout of the airport.

--Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû 02:15, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

OK, other than the fact that there were lawsuits, I can't really add anything from the court document because I'm not a lawyer and don't fully understand what it's saying. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû 03:24, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Nicely done, GA awarded. Please continue to look for the origin of the flight, Kennedy Airport? Suomi Finland 2009 (talk) 18:43, 13 December 2009 (UTC)