Talk:Synod of Bishops for the Pan-Amazon region

Latest comment: 4 years ago by Jzsj in topic Confusing quote

Link re married clergy edit

The link from “Criticism of the Catholic Church” to “Synod of Bishops for the Pan-Amazon region#Clerical marriage proposal“ is simply premature. There are already more substantial links in place. Perhaps if something develops, but it’s likely anything here will be about minor exceptions for viri probati and not as substantial as other WP entries. Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 23:32, 27 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

The exact title doesn't matter, just that there is one for that paragraph; I would like to link to it.--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 04:05, 28 March 2019 (UTC)Reply
I know you’d like to but there’s no real reason to atvthis point. You’ve already overlinked from the Criticism entry to multiple places that are more relevant. This paragraph does not merit its own heading, though the outcome of this Synod might produce something of note, but if it does it will be covered elsewhere as well. Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 21:55, 28 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

Please don't erase the actual document edit

It indeed encourages globalization.[1]JoeScarce (talk) 22:33, 9 August 2019 (UTC)Reply

Protected edit request on 8 September 2019 edit

Second sentence includes "who are experiencing the destruction and exploitation of their natural environment" which is not indicated at all in the article cited. Where does that come from? I would change to:

Pope Francis announced on 15 October 2017 that it would work "to identify new paths for the evangelization of God's people in that region", specifically the indigenous peoples who are "often forgotten and without the prospect of a serene future". TruthMatters (talk) 21:36, 8 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

  Done Izno (talk) 01:52, 9 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

Change navbox Catholicism edit

At {{Catholicism|state=start}}, change to state=collapsed. For a single navbox. JoeHebda (talk) 19:22, 12 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

Full protection edit

@El C:, I believe it to be inappropriate to fully protect Synod of Bishops for the Pan-Amazon region infinitely. It has been fully protected since 10 August, over a month ago, so I thinks it's time to lower the protection to semi, or even none. {{ping|waddie96}} {talk} 14:44, 21 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

Confusing quote edit

In this edit we have, well, it's a copy-and-paste directly from America Magazine, and I feel it will lead to confusion on the part of the reader. The main article describes pretty much rampant liturgical abuse in that laypeople are being "authorized" to do things they are not licitly allowed to do. The quote refers to a woman religious leading the Weekday Celebration of the Eucharist in the Absence of a Priest, which can be done licitly, but the cardinal says he explains "this is not the Eucharist" - there must be something lost in translation because Holy Communion is the Sacrament of the Eucharist, and that's the whole point of the Weekday Celebration, it's to distribute the Eucharist. And then the people are quoted as saying "we like the Mass of the sister" and it becomes clear (to me) that they misunderstood the Cardinal who is trying to explain it is not a Mass. But I don't think that's going to be all too obvious to casual readers of Wikipedia. I don't think this excerpt is appropriate for this article on the Synod. Elizium23 (talk) 06:01, 26 February 2020 (UTC)Reply

  • Note that Sister Nathalie Becquart immediately above the America material is reinforcing the America article in Crux. These are not as shocking to traditionalist Catholics as are Pope Francis' criticisms of clericalism and mentioning a greater role for women at the Eucharist. Understand that "Eucharist" means primarily the Thanksgiving Celebration and only secondarily the Communion bread which is a real symbol of the transformation of participants into other Christs. Many Catholics want to reduce the Eucharist to privatized devotion to Jesus in the Communion bread, but this is not what Christ intended by the symbolism of making us part of his body on earth, "missionary disciples". Sadly, Wikipedia articles on the Eucharist are currently hopelessly misleading on the meaning of the Eucharist; this meaning is best known from its roots in the New Testament. As to casual readers, this should be a wake-up call to learn what the Church really teaches, that the local Bishop is fully entitled by his approval to point the way to development in the Church's practice. And that's partly why Pope Francis is encouraging them, so that the grass roots needs of the Church will be better reflected in Church practice. Jzsj (talk) 13:09, 26 February 2020 (UTC)Reply