Talk:Sultan Ghari

DYK Review comment

• Article length and history verified. However, the hook remains unverified. In the article, the only time it appears is at the beginning...without a reference. It'll be a shame to not have this great article not star on the front page, so find some refs! Cheers. I'^mperator 12:50, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Also, in the hook, I don't think the word "tomb" is needed: that's why it's linked. Cheers. I'^mperator 16:41, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

• Thank you for the review. I had put in all five references at the end of the opening section. For the Hook, I had combined references 1 & 2, extracts of which are given below.

Reference 1: Country’s first tomb is victim of ASI’s neglect By Pankaj Tyagi

Country’s first tomb, Sultan Garhi built by Sultan Iltutmish in 1231 for his eldest son and Razia Sultana’s brother, Nasiruddin Mahmood, situated in the woodlands of Vasant Kunj [opposite Sector C, Pocket 9, Vasant Kunj in Delhi is today a victim of neglect and fighting the battle for its very existence. At that time this place was known as Malkapur. Percy Brown, describing its architectural beauty, writes that its dome and arches are its main features. Another historian, Ferguson has also praised its octagonal central hall and high dome.

Reference 2: Meera Iyer focuses on the lesser known tombs of Delhi that have earned the capital city the reputation of being a funerary landscape.

Delhi is famously littered with historic monuments, many of them tombs, giving our capital its reputation as one vast funerary landscape. Although Humayun’s tomb, a World Heritage Site, hogs the limelight, many of Delhi’s lesser known tombs are interesting studies too, always rich in history and often reflecting the personality of who lies buried inside.---- If peace and solitude are what you seek, however, go to the oldest Muslim mausoleum in Delhi; only some tombs in Kutch in Gujarat are older. Sultan Garhi, built in 1231, is where Iltumish buried his eldest and favourite son, Prince Nassir-ud-din Muhammad. Like the structures in the Qutb Minar complex, Sultan Garhi was built using materials from earlier Hindu constructions. A marble yoni-patta (base slab of a linga) can be seen reused in the floor of the prayer chamber. The narrow flight of stairs that leads into the subterranean crypt is supported by pillars removed from an earlier temple. Perhaps in keeping with the turbulent times, the tomb has turrets, domed bastions and archways that give it the air of a fortress from the outside. But inside, it is strangely peaceful.

It was my mistake that I did not cite the two references at the end of the first sentence. I have made amends now.

As regards the use of the word ‘tomb’ in brackets, I did it to only emphasize the fact that Mausoleum is not a common usage in India, while Tomb is. In fact, from the tourism point of view Delhi is known more as a “City of Tombs”.

In case you wish me to delete the word 'tomb' then I will insert Alt. Hook. I hope the above clarifies your review observations. Thanks once again for the review and comments--Nvvchar (talk) 05:47, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Images on Commons

Badly need category review; there should be a dedicated category for images from this place. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 04:03, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

1)Sultan Ghari; 2) The neighboring small two-room sized ancient Islamic era structure that was destroyed by the Army by explosives

Remember visiting this place (Sultan Ghari) in early 1990s, there were some university students on the roof studying a carved portion of a looted and demolished ancient Hindu temple, from the time, used in its construction as a building stone for this tomb.

Also I remember a small two-room sized ancient Islamic era structure that most likely belonged to the same time and group of structures where the locals worshiped and had some flags up, which was about less than a kilometer away directly under the flight path approaching Palam Airport, in the Army controlled fenced in wilderness where the army regularly did field exercises with soldiers in 1989 and early 1990s (In the fenced in wilderness controlled by defence next to Vasnt Kunj under the flight path approaching Palam Airport - It is now known &protected as Aravalli Biodiversity Park), this ancient small two-room sized Muslim structure had too many locals come there while the Army soldiers were in the midst of conducting jungle warfare field exercises, because of the regular disturbances caused to Army by local villagers in the well demarcated Army controlled area, the local Army commanders overseeing the wilderness exercises, these local Army officers just went ahead and demolished / blew away this ancient structure from the landscape completely with Army explosives.

This wilderness area was already heavily illegally mined for Red Earth (Badarpur) used in construction to mix with cement or just as decorative Red Sand and for mining China Clay etc. with stone quarries etc. Illegal mining had quarried stone deep from 3 sides of this structure already and just left it standing on the rock, then the Army blew it away completely in 1989 or 1990 or thereabouts something, it was definately gone by 1997 as the locals might remember.

Where the hell was Archeological Survey of India and why did they not come to the rescue of an ancient structure?????? even if it was only a 2-room sized but ancient structure directly under the flight path of palam airport.

mrigthrishna (talk) 06:55, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Revising history

There have been several recent edits designed to sanitize this story. I'm tired of reverting them and leave it to someone who is more involved with the topic. Wilson44691 (talk) 12:09, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

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