Talk:Stefon

Latest comment: 18 days ago by PrimalMustelid in topic Did you know nomination
Good articleStefon has been listed as one of the Media and drama good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
July 19, 2023Peer reviewReviewed
March 17, 2024Good article nomineeListed
Did You Know
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on April 15, 2024.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that John Mulaney would change the Saturday Night Live character Stefon's lines before airing in order to make Bill Hader break character?
Current status: Good article

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Reading this article edit

made me LOL at work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cosmic Air (talkcontribs) 16:12, 10 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

Stefon edit

Stefon 2603:8081:1905:3D5D:4450:48A9:5640:19C7 (talk) 22:35, 22 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

GA Review edit

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


This review is transcluded from Talk:Stefon/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Sammi Brie (talk · contribs) 06:24, 17 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

GA review
(see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose, spelling, and grammar):  
    b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):  
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references):  
    b (citations to reliable sources):  
    c (OR):  
    d (copyvio and plagiarism):  
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects):  
    b (focused):  
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:  
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:  
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales):  
    b (appropriate use with suitable captions):  

Overall:
Pass/Fail:  

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Copy is remarkably clean on the whole. Not much to do. Ping me when done. Sammi Brie (she/her • tc) 06:43, 17 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

Did you know? If you fancy doing so, I always have plenty of GA nominees to review. Just look for the all-uppercase titles in the Television section. Reviews always appreciated.

Copy changes edit

  • November 1, 2008 SNL episode Needs a MOS:GEOCOMMA
    • Done
  • Mulaney left SNL in 2012 but would periodically return maybe "but periodically returned"? WP:INTOTHEWOULDS was once linked to me and feels relevant.
    • Done
  • second-time hosting probably not hyphen-able
    • Done
  • should be "Meyers's" per MOS:'S
    • Done
  • David Reddish of Queerty wrote that he loved Stefon "in all his messy, gay glory", and that Remove the comma outside of the quote... I almost thought you'd get away without a WP:CINS issue.
    • Done

Sourcing and spot checks edit

  • 2: Miller and Shales mentions co-creation by Hader and Mulaney, p. 608.  Y
  • 3: John got an email for a club from a guy, I think. Thought John was gay, and he sent John a club. He was like, you gotta come to this club, this club has everything. And the club was called, like Push, or something. One of the things in the email was rooms full of broken glass.  Y
  • 15: They write the sketch long so SNL Weekend Update anchor Seth Meyers can provide feedback on what jokes to cut.  Y
  • 42: 2010 AV Club review. Hader doing Stefon is fun to watch, though, mostly because it seems to always break him and Seth Meyers about two-thirds of the way in. This time the breaking point was him singing a twisted version of the "12 Days of Christmas."  Y
  • 65: Yeah, he announced his pregnancy.  Y
  • 67: Among Stefon’s name drops: Verne Troyer, Roman J. Israel Esq. and Farrah-cauns — that is, leprechauns that look like Farrah Fawcett. (“But also, yes, Minister Farrakhan will be there.”)  Y
  • 71: Last year, Hader explained that SNL had “floated” the idea that he come back to play Stefon – a gay character – but he’d turned it down because of the political climate. ... He went on to say how the idea that people saw the character differently to him had been eye-opening, “because I really love Stefon and it never occurred to me that he would be seen as a stereotype, and that really hurt”. Since then, though, he’s changed his mind. “Honestly, I don’t know why I said that,” he tells me. “I probably would play him. I think just being asked the question at that point in time kind of made me anxious.” I think the fact this is a change of heart could be played up a bit more in prose, but  Y
  • 73: At the black-tie benefit, which raised over $1.3 million for Autism Speaks and New York Center for Autism, Seth Meyers prompted a Stefon-channeling Hader to recommend some holiday clubbing  Y
  • 76: This ref is now a dead link. The archived copy checks out. The doll is mentioned in text, and it visually appears as a matryoshka in the included image.  Y
  • 97: 2016 THR article: “Maybe now that he has hosted Saturday Night Live they’ll think twice about the jokes they’ve made at little people’s expense,” says Campbell — referring to a running gag in Bill Hader’s popular Stefon sketches in which he described “midgets” in demeaning situations.  Y

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Images edit

The lone image is a low-res, NFUR-bearing screenshot of Stefon. Yeah, that's about the only worthwhile image for this page. Encouragement: More descriptive alt text for Stefon's appearance is probably merited.

  • @Sammi Brie: I have finished editing what you requested. Surprisingly, many character-related Good and Featured articles do not have alt text or have ones that are not so descriptive like Sadie Harris so I have nothing to reference, but I tried my best. Spinixster (chat!) 09:07, 17 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Did you know nomination edit

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by PrimalMustelid talk 08:09, 9 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Improved to Good Article status by Spinixster (talk). Self-nominated at 01:31, 18 March 2024 (UTC).Reply

Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  •   New GA, well sourced and written, no copyvio, no QPQ needed. Removed a couple phrases that seemed undue for the lede. @Spinixster: It would be good to more directly cite criticized due to his stereotypical nature in the body despite how obvious that is. Approve hooks ALT1 (and my shortened revision ALT1a) and ALT2; ALT0 is too specialist, ALT3 isn't really interesting, and ALT4 is in universe. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 17:52, 19 March 2024 (UTC)Reply