Talk:Steelmaking

I would suggest that this article is unnecessary, as there is a much better description of steelamking processes in the article on steel. Peterkingiron 23:00, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

I say we keep it, as it's got a category named after it, and it's a bit more specific. Focus on improving the article to explain the process more than the steps described on steel. Oubliette 02:31, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Some time ago there was a problem with a lot of parallel (and sometimes contradictory) articles on aspects of ferrous metallurgy. This is highly undesirable. It this article is to survive it should be as a general article referring to others daling with more specific topics. Alternatively the section dealing with steelmaking in steel should be moved here, with a {{main}} template to indicate that this is where one should look. Peterkingiron 16:31, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I would add something about runout tables------

Not a stub

I have removed a "stub" tag from this page. It is not a stub and should not be regarded as such. Rather it is a parent article, providing a brief overview and links to detailed articles on each steelmaking process respectively. Peterkingiron (talk) 12:16, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

I'll agree that it doesn't need to be listed as a stub, but I do think there is room for expansion. I think the article should have a section called "Processes" with subsections having a short summary and a {{main}} link to that article. Wizard191 (talk) 15:35, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

You may be right. You will (I am sure) be able to do this well. I was trying to discourage excessive expansion, following a recent edit. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:55, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

I added the section, however I know that the BOS and EAF are not the only two processes still used. The other processes should be added to those sections as well. Wizard191 (talk) 00:42, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

I tagged it with "stub" and on reflection and observation of the other articles, I (mostly) agree that this should be an overview article with pointers at all the specialized processes. However I think it would be useful to put the first, oh, say, 1000 years of steelmaking history in here and only turn into an overview when getting into more modern processes (arbitrarily, Bessemer process and later). It might also be useful to discuss the fundamental chemistry and thermodynamics of reducing ores to metal. --Wtshymanski (talk) 14:55, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Which first 1000 years? ONe of the difficulties is that we still know comparatively little about some of the early processes. The production of steel in bloomeries probably depends on how the process is managed, but there is a lot still to be worked out. The discovery that some Saxon steel from Hamtune (Southampton) could be properly classified as crucible steel warranted a Letter to Nature a few years ago. You may be right that more needs to be added about pre-17th century processes. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:02, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Electric arc steelmaking (i.e. in the electric arc furnace, EAF) is not the same as secondary steelmaking. Secondary steelmaking covers a range of processes between the BOS or EAF and casting, including alloying, refining, degassing, desulphurization, dephoshphorization, stirring (for temperature and compositional homogeniety prior to casting, etc. Even steel that is remelted via the EAF route almost always undergoes further secondary steelmaking operations. See steeluniversity for example process flow diagram. Amgreen (talk) 12:43, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

I agree with AMgreen on the point above. Secondary steelmaking is all about refining steel. Production of steel via EAF or BOF is an earlier step. The Wiki page as shown at present is wrong in identifying primary steelmaking as the BOS process and secondary steelmaking as the EAF process. This is simply not correct. AndrzejMarek 15:24, 16 July 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amkotas (talk • contribs)