Talk:Spit cake

Šakotis is the same Raguolis (Polish-Lithuanian traditional spit cake?) Hafspajen (talk) 10:29, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

Yes it is. Hafspajen (talk) 16:34, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

• Drmies ... Hafspajen (talk) 16:34, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

• Hafspajen? Drmies (talk) 18:27, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

• Drmies ... copyed? Hafspajen (talk) 18:34, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

• Gotta teach! Drmies (talk) 18:45, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

Merge proposal

I propose merging Trdelník into Spit cake. I think trdelník is only a minor variation of a generic spit cake, and as such, I doubt it warrants a separate article. Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 14:59, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

I don't think these articles should be merged. However, the article for Trdelník may not be descriptive enough. In the 21st century, Trdelník has morphed into a confection almost always topped with ice cream and other western influenced ice-cream toppings -- delineating itself from not only spit cake but from Trdelník traditionally as well as the other kinds of spit cakes found in other European culinary histories. Additionally, the article has a lot of room for growth as the popular consensus around its origins, since they have been changed, disputed, and just generally more confused than any other kind of spit cake.

To elaborate on that a little bit -- Trdelník specifically originated in the Kingdom of Hungary, became popularly believed to originate from Slovakia, and then was adopted and modified to Western preferences specifically as a treat by cafes in the more tourism-oriented areas of Czechia where it is now falsely assumed Trdelník was born. (there is a road in the heart of Prague practically lined with these vendors reinforcing this belief)

Should these articles be merged, I feel it would necessitate the further (and probably overzealous) merging of other types of spit cake which to my analysis have the same or even less variation and complicated history than Trdelník. See Baumkuchen, Šakotis, Spettekaka, and Kürtőskalács (also called Chimney Cakes, and probably how Trdelník actually took hold in Czechia in recent history).

Trdelník, like the rest, is not simply a minor variation of spit cake. It is a kind of spit cake with a complicated and changing history in Czechia where it is being famously served and specifically called "Trdelník".

I vote no. 2600:8800:104:D300:1C23:3D7E:2506:D1C9 (talk) 15:49, 8 January 2024 (UTC)