Talk:Spaghetti strap

Gender-specific?

Men actually wear spaghetti strap vest tops as well thankyou very much. [posted by: anonymous]

Anonymous here insists that spaghetti straps are a feature of men's fashion. Never heard of that myself but am willing to be convinced by some sort of reference, but alas, this is viewed as being "sexist".

For what it's worth, spaghetti straps would seem to be, by actual definition, a feature of women's clothing. See, e.g., here, here, here, here, and — why not? — here.

Okay, glad I could help you sort that out there, Anonymous. You're welcome very much. Louche 01:28, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia works on Gender-free NPOV - and actually men can wear spaghetti straps - on brassieres for example. --Gothgirlangel1981 16:56, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Since when do men wear brassieres? Even I don't Catherine Woods 13:50, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Men don't wear spaghetti straps. Why would they? I've already stated this; I wear spaghetti straps all the time, they're my favorite kind of outfit, but since when was I a man? Catherine Woods 13:49, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

There are spaghetti strap vest tops available for men on the market, and in clothes shops, especially here in the UK. Just because you haven't seen them with your eyes, doesn't mean they don't exist. --Gothgirlangel1981 17:11, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

http://www.cvm.uiuc.edu/iscavma/bigimages/womensspaghettistraptanktop2.JPG

Either you're right or the guy in this picture is a fucking faggot (excuse me if that language is found offensive, I've been raised this way) Catherine Woods 01:34, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

You seem somewhat sexist Catherine, Men and Women can wear spaghetti strap tops alike as shown in the image, he is not a 'faggot' he is sporting a fashion statement, I suggest you think again before posting sexist conotation POV's on here. --Gothgirlangel1981 15:04, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

First, Wikipedia's NPOV policy has aboslutely nothing to do with being gender-free. Also, whether men actually spaghetti strap tops is irrelevant as far as this article is concerned. Wikipedia requires reliable sources explicitly stating that spaghetti straps are a feature of men and women's fashion. As things are, reliable sources define spaghetti straps as a feature in women's fashion. Ytny (talk) 19:21, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

THANK GOD!!! Catherine Woods 22:00, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

You really have some gender, sexist and feminist opinions in your mind. There are plenty of sources that show Spaghetti straps are apparent in mens fashion, as well. So Catherine, please stop adding narrowminded comments, and spaghetti straps can be worn by men too THANK GOD! --Gothgirlangel1981 17:07, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

THANK GOD

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When I started reading this debate, I thought you people were talking at cross purposes, between the physical ability of a man to wear a spaghetti strap garment and such garments having any place in male fashion. But on looking at the above-linked picture, I can't make up my mind whether it suits him, and nor can I tell whether what he's wearing was marketed as men's, women's or unisex.

I probably wouldn't wear such a thing myself - nonetheless, I'm curious about where these shops selling men's strappy tops are. I've lived in the UK all my life and never seen one. -- Smjg 22:07, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Response: Try in Topman and even Cult Clothing. --Gothgirlangel1981 10:28, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

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I vote for Image #1. I think that it illustrates it better and is in low resolution. Sarah Goldberg 01:11, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

The wedding image, as the black-top/blue-jeans image is a copyrighted AP photo, poorly cropped, mostly obscures the straps anyway, and gratuitously illustrates a trivial subject (spaghetti straps) with a victim of the Columbine massacre. It's also of such low quality that I'm not entirely convinced they're even spaghetti straps. They look no thinner than garden-variety bra straps to me, but either way, it's not a helpful illustration. At the risk of stating the obvious though, it's just a really crappy image. I thought it was a joke when I first saw it, but I'm willing to accept that it's being presented in good faith, which is why I responded. Langrel 22:25, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Dress codes - strappy vs. other sleeveless garments

From the two referenced pages:

• No tank tops, halter tops, or spaghetti straps [1]
• [Prohibited Apparel] Team jerseys (with the exception of school team shirts or sweaters), t-shirts, sweatshirts, tank tops/spaghetti straps, strapless or halter-tops or sheer, see-through blouses. [2]

This suggests that it's far from just spaghetti straps that they're down on. I personally think it would be more relevant to this article (as opposed to one on sleeveless garments more generally) to have examples of dress codes that prohibit spaghetti straps without banning 'normal-shaped' sleeveless tops/dresses if you know what I mean. On this basis, I'm adding a few such examples.... -- Smjg 00:21, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

"mens and womens clothing"

There are quite a few reasons that this statement shouldn't be here:

• It's unnecessarily wordy.
• It's misleading, as it makes it sound as though spaghetti straps are more-or-less equal parts of both sexes' fashion.
• It contradicts common knowledge, and as such is bound to lead people to think "what nonsense".
• That's not how you spell "men's".
• That's not how you spell "women's".

OTOH,

"A spaghetti strap is a very thin shoulder strap used in clothing"

is factually correct and not misleading in any way. -- Smjg (talk) 23:43, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Somebody also tried linking to the aforementioned photo as if it's a reference for the claim. As I began to say earlier, such a photo cannot confirm any such thing. Indeed, for all I know, the man could have donned a woman's top (especially likely considering that both tops are of the same design), posed for the photo and then put it online in order to start or fuel a hoax. -- Smjg (talk) 00:57, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Men?

I don't think it's true that men wear them and I really don't care. The only reason that women wear them and men don't is because women are skinier. Stop debating. No one cares. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.229.42.13 (talk) 23:50, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

WP isn't really the place for such comments, aside from the obvious silliness.... -- — Smjg (talk) 22:19, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

Construction area safety vest

For what it's worth, yesterday I saw a worker (male) at a construction site. He was wearing a bright yellow safety vest that had -- you guessed it -- spaghetti straps over the shoulder. He was wearing this over a coat. I don't think this was intended to be a fashion statement so much as a way to keep a safety vest from interfering with his movement. The main point of mentioning this is to emphasize that while spaghetti straps are certainly much more common in women's clothing, the spaghetti strap itself is not gender-specific. _{(Please ping upon reply due to watchlist overload.)} Etamni | ✉ | ✓  07:04, 6 March 2016 (UTC)