Talk:Soviet aircraft carrier Ulyanovsk

Soviet Nimitz?

I'm moving this content here until Mathieu121 can back this up:

A new design based on the Ulyanovsk and the americain Nimitz-class super carriers is being researched and constructed for the Russian Navy.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by N328KF (talk • contribs) 04:27, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

"americain" is mispelled, should be "American" SpurnWater71 (talk) 16:54, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

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As new aircraft-carriers come into production today, they are seen as a leading symbol of a nation, not of power, therefore it is higly probable that a new aircraft-carrier design will be in production. In 2005, unconfirmed sources indicated that the People's Republic of China Navy (PLAN) may purchase the blueprints of Ulyanovsk as part of its ambition to achieve "blue-water" capability.

Per the verifiability policy, please provide reliable sources for these assertions before adding them to the article. Kirill Lokshin 01:54, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Specs added by anonyomous user and reverted by Aerobird

I think the specs that the anonymous user entered were from GlobalSecurity/John Pike, where as the table specs are from Andrew Toppan. I am more inclined to believe John Pike's figures, but it'd be nice to have a more definitive source on this. Since the carrier was partially constructed, there must be some hard information somewhere. —Joseph/N328KF (Talk)

One reason I reverted them was because they introduced contridictory data - in the infobox, the displacement was changed from 80,000 tons to 65,000 tons, while in the article the same original number was changed to 85,000 tons. I checked the HazeGray listing (link in article) and found it agreed with the 'original' data, so I changed it back.

People (nearly always anons) changing specifications w/out citing a source is rapidly becoming a pet peeve of mine... - Aerobird ^{Target locked - Fox One!} 01:16, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

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Fate?

This article should include what happened to the hulk after the dissolution of the Soviet Union. It just says it was 40% complete. What then happened? Is it still sitting there under Russian occupation of Mikolaiv in 2023? Was it scrapped? Did the Russians tow it out to sea and sink it, to get berthing area in port after the invasion? Was it bombed in 2022 and now lies as wreckage on its slip? Did someone complete it as something else? Did someone want to buy it and complete it as an aircraft carrier, like Varyag was? -- 64.229.90.199 (talk) 04:41, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

Photos

Some aerial or satellite photos of the hulk would be good -- 64.229.90.199 (talk) 04:42, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

"Liman River" Incorrect

The History section, Background subsection, 2nd paragraph, final phrase states "Liman River Channel". This is incorrect. The shipyard is on the Pivdennyi Buh (not Bug) River. "Lyman" (Лиман) is a Ukrainian word that can be used for estuary, firth, large lake, gulf etc., and is not the river name. Below Mykolaiv, the Buh widens and becomes an estuary, so many maps label it "Бүэькиӥ Лиман" or "Buh Estuary", this may be the source of the error. Further, the article would be enhanced by adding that the shipyard's sheltered location on the wide, deep, Buh gives it good access to the Black Sea; this was a factor in its historical success SpurnWater71 (talk) 16:51, 8 November 2023 (UTC)