Talk:South Cave

Latest comment: 10 years ago by Keith D in topic Town/village

Population edit

I would strongly dispute that the population of South Cave is so high.

True though see here--Harkey Lodger (talk) 15:40, 26 May 2008 (UTC)Reply

Town/village edit

Is South Cave a town? This article seems to make the place out to be a lot bigger then it actually is. I may be wrong here, but I would have called South Cave a village, allbeit a large village. It has very few ammenities, most off its shops (except the ones to the far West of the town/village) are in the small local centre, which is hard,ly substancial enough to call a town centre (Even Brough is pushing the limits of the term). Also does South Cave have a town hall or similar? Mtaylor848 (talk) 22:42, 11 October 2008 (UTC)Reply

I had it down as a village, but an IP reverted my change and produced a reference to the parish council being held at the town hall. I think from the parish council web site it looks like it is a village even though it has a town hall. If it was a town I would have expected it to have been called a town council rather than parish council. I was hoping that some one with more knowledge would clear up this one. Keith D (talk) 23:27, 11 October 2008 (UTC)Reply

WRONG. South Cave has a Town Charter, and has had one for a few hundred years. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.78.76.75 (talk) 13:14, 14 June 2011 (UTC)Reply

It may have a charter but does not currently appear to be classing itself as a town and the East Riding County Council does not have it noted as a town. Keith D (talk) 21:31, 14 June 2011 (UTC)Reply

East Riding County Council are not always correct. South Cave is a town. http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ERY/Southcave/Southcave92.html

Quote "The town of South Cave is small, but pleasantly situated on the banks of a small stream, at the western foot of the Wolds. It is distant about two-and-a-half miles from the river Humber, eight miles south-by-east from Market Weighton, nine miles south-west from Beverley, 12 from Hull; one mile from South Cave station, on the Hull, Barnsley, and West Riding Junction railway; and three from Brough station, on the Hull and Selby branch of the North-Eastern railway. A charter was granted to Peter Dayryll in 1279, by Edward I., empowering him to hold in his manor of South Cave, a weekly market, on Monday, and one fair yearly, to be held on the eve, the day, and the morrow of the feast of the Holy Trinity. The market has been abandoned, but a fair for cattle, sheep, and horses is held on Trinity Monday and Tuesday, another on the second Monday after Michaelmas day. The latter was established in 1831. The town is governed by a Local Board of 12 members, formed in 1871, under "The Local Government Act of 1853." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.147.10.61 (talk) 23:14, 12 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

That is an old reference how about some present day references as the parish council and East Riding of Yorkshire council both indicate it is a village. It may have held town status in the past but what about its present day status. Keith D (talk) 00:11, 13 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

South Cave is affectionately known as a village by it's residents. It was historically a most important trading point. The current market was re-started using the charter eleven years ago. It should have to be proven rather, that it is a village as the evidence for it being a town is overwhelming. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.147.10.61 (talk) 00:59, 13 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

http://www.eastriding.gov.uk/corp-docs/forwardplanning/docs/spg/village_design_statements/South_Cave.pdf section 3.4 explains that South Cave is indeed a town. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.147.10.61 (talk) 01:03, 13 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

So now we have proved South Cave is a town, why does someone keep reverting it to a village status. Over zealous editing is making wikipedia uninteresting and it does not encourage people to contribute when facts are constantly deleted because they do not suit one persons opinions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.122.233.85 (talk) 17:36, 11 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

You have not proved it is currently a town - even the reference supplied above call itself "Village Design Statement". Keith D (talk) 20:18, 11 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

You are spoiling wikipedia with your over zealous editing, is a charter signed by the King not enough for you ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.122.233.85 (talk) 16:52, 12 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

Actually Keith D is a very good Wikipedia editor. If you want to get the best out of Wikipedia, find good sources for your contributions and reference them. There's no need to get personal. Zozzie 9t9 (talk) 06:32, 8 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
As indicated previously have you any current day reference to the fact. It is not designated a town in the present day which is what the article shows. Keith D (talk) 12:50, 8 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Assessment comment edit

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:South Cave/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

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  1. Add inline references
  2. Add infobox   Done
  3. Need to check out claim to town, reference only states it has a town hall but council is just a parish council not town council.
  4. Add structure and expand on details such as History
Keith D 13:20, 2 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

Last edited at 12:29, 10 August 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 06:34, 30 April 2016 (UTC)