Talk:Soundz

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Lifebaka, why do you insist on removing the official MySpace links for Soundz? Why have you removed some of the resource links to other sites? Also while I'm on the subject, why have you added a citation/footnote tag, and a notability tag? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Olorinjoyce (talk • contribs) 18:30, December 31, 2007

I have added the tags because I believe that there are problems with the article that should be fixed. For the notability issues, please read the WP:MUSIC criteria, which I am not sure he passes any of. The use of inline citations in the body text (particularly using <ref></ref> tags, which look nicer) will help prevent editors from labeling it as cruft and nominating the article for deletion.

As for the links, none of them are valid, reliable sources. I removed social networking sites and blogs only. Because people are able to post whatever they want on these sorts sites, they are not able to be used as reliable sources. I hope I have answered your questions. --lifebaka (Talk - Contribs) 04:54, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

OK, so let's start with the notability guideline for music. Under the criteria for musicians and ensembles, Sounds meets the following;

He's produced a song (Pitbull's "Go Girl") which has been featured in three Billboard Charts, and furthermore the song he produced for One Chance, "Look At Her", was placed on rotation accross many UK and US radio stations.

Under the criteria for composers and lyricists, Soundz has credit for writing music on a notable composition, which be "Go Girl" by Pitbull. At the very start of this song, and I quote, Pitbull speaks "What would the music be without Soundz."

I do understand what you're saying about MySpace, how anyone with an account can post whatever they like in the users' comments section. However, I disagree that the link cannot be classed as a reliable source and should be removed. As already explained, this is the only official site of Soundz, and no matter how many users log on to this MySpace account, they can not under any circumstances change the 'about me' section. This tells Soundz' story of how he got famous, which artists he's worked with and more, which is good reliable information for people wanting to find out as much as they can on Soundz. Going back to what I discussed before, if you can't class MySpace as a reliable source or external link, then you should go remove the official links from hundreds of other producers' wiki pages, including Scott Storch. For another example, see 50 Cent, where he has an external link to MySpace.

Fine, keep it in as an external link to his official page. Precendent seems to allow that. However, it is still not a viable source. Soundz can put whatever he wants on the site, so the same arguement applys to it as applies to forums and blogs. --lifebaka (Talk - Contribs) 16:22, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm furious about your removal of the MySpace links.

I do agree with you on the inline citations though. However, being a new Wikipedia user I have absoulutely no idea how to use them! Perhaps, since you're so keen on "improving" this wiki page, maybe you could add them! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Olorinjoyce (talk • contribs) 12:05, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

I will, no problem. --lifebaka (Talk - Contribs) 16:22, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Done. I removed the Music Heat XL link because I couldn't find any mention of Soundz on it. Thank you for your contributions. --lifebaka (Talk - Contribs) 16:36, 1 January 2008 (UTC)