Talk:Soprano trombone/GA1

Latest comment: 8 months ago by Marshelec in topic GA Review

GA Review edit

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Reviewer: Marshelec (talk · contribs) 08:04, 16 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

I plan to review this article over the next week. Marshelec (talk) 08:04, 16 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

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1. Well-written:
  1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct. Prose is of a high standard. No issues found with spelling or grammar.
  1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation. Follows manual of style guidance.
2. Verifiable with no original research:
  2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline. References and bibliography listings are provided in suitable sections
  2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose). There are comprehensive in-line citations throughout. Sources are good. A sample check of readily accessible sources was satisfactory.
  2c. it contains no original research. No evidence of original research
  2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism. The copyvio report returns nothing of concern
3. Broad in its coverage:
  3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic. Good coverage of the topic
  3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style). Stays on topic, and there is no excessive detail
  4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each. Content shows fair representation without bias
  5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute. Edit history shows the article is stable and free from edit wars etc
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  7. Overall assessment.
Review comments

Review comments edit

The lead edit

  • The lead is a bit short, and currently doesn't include some interesting aspects covered in the body. I suggest additional sentences outlining recent use of Soprano trombone in jazz performance, and also the use as a training instrument for children, and for trumpet players.
  • Although modern instruments are made, the soprano remains a rare trombone seldom written for, compared to the tenor, bass, or even the uncommon alto trombone. This sentence is doing too much, and is a bit hard to read, especially for content in the lead. I suggest a rewrite and split into two sentences for better flow.

History edit

  • The earliest surviving instrument was made in 1677, held by the Kremsegg musical instrument museum. Hmmm. Going to the page de:Schloss Kremsegg I find: "The Kremsegg Castle Musical Instrument Museum has been closed since December 31, 2018." So where is the instrument now ??
  • Johann Sebastian Bach composed three cantatas (BWV 2, 21 & 38) around 1723, where four trombones are required; the highest part was written in ... this might be better as: "Johann Sebastian Bach composed three cantatas (BWV 2, 21 & 38) around 1723, with four trombone parts; the highest part was written in ..."
  • A possible reason for this was because the Stadtpfeiffer (lit. 'town pipers'), who were trained to play all instruments, may have found fast and high (soprano) passages easier to play .. may be better as: "A possible reason is that the Stadtpfeiffer (lit. 'town pipers'), who were trained to play all instruments, found that fast and high (soprano) passages were easier to play ..."
  • ... while describing the alto as obsolete. add link to alto trombone

Construction edit

  • The B♭ soprano trombone is built with dimensions similar to the trumpet. perhaps I am a bit picky here, but I suggest ".. B♭ trumpet" for complete clarity.
  • add link to "tenor trombone"
  • ..built with a shorter slide of six positions rather than seven ... ideally we would not promote an article that included a ctitation needed tag

Sopranino and piccolo trombones edit

  • this section comes as a surprise on a first read-through. There is no mention of other sizes until this point. I note that much of the content is already in Trombone. One option is to remove the content from this article. An alternative would be to treat it the same as for Serpent (instrument), and have a heading "Sizes", to give a bit more lead-in.
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