Talk:Soletrader Peek A Boo

Ch.???

The very first "word" in this article is "Ch." If this is meant to be a shortened form of "champion," as a title, then spell it out. (Having searched, I find the American Kennels Club uses "Ch." as a short form of "Champion," so I will edit). If it was meant to stand for something else, spell it out. There's nothing within this article, or in the article it's linked to, to shed any light on the meaning or how to pronounce "Ch.," and it is likely that a reader who doesn't know dog shows will not be able to interpret this. zadignose (talk) 03:25, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Ch. abbreviates to Champion across all conformation dog shows. You might get additional prefixes such as Am Ch. which is American Champion (used outside the US) or Nord Ch. (used to show that the dog has Champion status in each of the Nordic countries). However, it is commonly abbrivated when used in a dog's name. You won't find dogs listed as Champion Such and Such in listings, it'll be as Ch. Such and Such. Miyagawa (talk) 19:44, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

An important point is being missed here. This article is not just for the benefit of readers who are familiar with dog shows and the titles conferred. This is an article for general readership, and most people in the general readership will not know the meaning of "Ch." There also NO way for the reader to find out what it means, if curious.

By point of comparison, see the page for Yasser Seirawan. He is an International Grand Master, a title conferred by FIDE, the international chess association. All chess literature will refer to him as GM Yasser Seirawan, but the title is not used at any time in his Wikipedia page, and certainly not as the first thing you read on this page. Is this limited to Seirawan? No, even the current World Champion is simply referred to by his name: Viswanathan Anand. Arguably, the only title abbreviations which are commonly understood by most readers of English are Mr., Ms., Mrs., and Dr. Yet Albert Einstein, Martin Luther King, Jr., Albert Schweitzer, and Sigmund Freud are all doctors whose Wikipedia pages do not refer to them by the title of "Dr."

Why, then, should a dog be literally entitled, using an abbreviation that is obscure to all readers outside of the subculture of dog fanciers, when we don't extend a similar courtesy to human beings?zadignose (talk) 04:51, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Ah, however, I'm glad to see that the link now goes to Championship (dog) instead of Conformation Show, as this at least sheds some light on the meaning of the abbreviation used. I'd still argue that perhaps the title should not be prominently placed at the head of the article. Perhaps it can be communicated in an alternative way.zadignose (talk) 05:00, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

I want to congratulate the person who removed this silly article from the front-page news section of wikipedia. Congratulations, and thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.32.10.131 (talk) 23:36, 12 March 2013 (UTC)