Talk:Snapphane

Latest comment: 4 months ago by FrinkMan in topic Titel

Titel edit

After the Swedish takeover of Skåne in 1658, Danish continued to be the language of the province. In 1681, the Swedish king banned Danish, which only gradually lost its dominance. Danish was legalised 160 years later when Sweden found Skåne to be Swedish enough. We are thus dealing with a Danish guerrilla organisation operating in a Danish-speaking area. It therefore appears to me that the name of the article should be changed from Swedish "Snapphane" to Danish "Snaphane". Any thoughts? Marginataen (talk) 14:44, 7 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

More than 48 hours have now passed since my initial comment. If 48 hours pass without any response, I'll probably just change it :) Marginataen (talk) 13:16, 9 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
Doesn't the article establish that the term was primarily a derogatory term used by the Swedish against a variety of groups within Scania?
"These five categories of the fighter were all considered snapphanar by the Swedes, and if caught, were all punished as such. However, these combatants themselves did not use this term, and those in Category 2 and 3 strongly preferred the word friskytter."
Most of the Danish speakers in the region wouldn't have referred to themselves as "snaphaner", but mercenaries, guerillas and criminals were all lumped together as "snapphanar" by the Swedish, which to me indicates that the article should use the Swedish title, as it describes all the categories. Fisk0 (talk) 21:00, 13 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
Agreed, it was a derogatory term used by the Swedes. The Swedish spelling is the most commonly used in English as well. I'm changing the name of the article back to Snapphane. FrinkMan (talk) 07:05, 6 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

Italics for title edit

User:SchreiberBike Weird if this really isn't in the Manual of Style. I don't quite know what to think. My gut feeling says that the word "snaphane" within this article is established enough to not be in italics since it's the topic of the article.--Marginataen (talk) 21:56, 14 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

@Marginataen: The decision should be based on MOS:FOREIGNITALIC, where it says "Wikipedia uses italics for phrases in other languages and for isolated foreign words that do not yet have everyday use in non-specialized English." It doesn't seem to me that snaphane has "everyday use in non-specialized English". I don't know of any other text in our Manual of Style which is specific to article titles, but failing that, I'd follow the quote above. That does not mean that the word should continue to be italicized throughout the article after its first use because it is no longer an isolated foreign word at that point. Does that make sense to you? Thanks, SchreiberBike | ⌨  01:36, 17 May 2023 (UTC)Reply