Talk:Smoothie King

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Fourthords in topic What's missing

Advertising? edit

I did not intend to in any way advocate the franchise. This problem can be solved if more contributors are willing to expand the article. --Gray PorpoiseYour wish is my command! 03:03, 17 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

July 2007 edit

If I have done anything wrong whatever please ameliorate. I reread what I had written and there is a seeming slant, as I used to work there. I would appreciate it if an outsider could winnow the bias out and leave a nice neutral article. I will be paying this article more attention in days to come. Thank you. Heureka! 06:53, 24 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

advertising edit

This is a pretty bad article. It sounds like advertising and the main claims--that these smoothies are "health food" and that the chain's founder invented the category--are completely unsourced (and the second is contradicted by the text at smoothie. The first reference is also the companies website, which I understand shouldn't be used as a reputable source. I had never heard of the chain until I saw it made the CPSI's 2013 "Extreme Eating" report (http://cspinet.org/new/201301161.html), so I'm hardly knowledgeable to make edits; but I might try if no one else is going to. squibix(talk) 16:50, 19 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

What's missing edit

We still don't know their menu, whether or not they have responded to vegan concerns (for nondairy ingredients, as with plantmilks[1], range of US locations (I see that they are in Clark, New Jersey) and now headquartered in Dallas, Texas, and how successful their Clean Blends initiative has been to date. Is there no 3rd party media to address any of this? My quick online search found plenty to make a more robust, interesting article about a seemingly low-cost franchise opportunity in an era when small businesses are responsible for a very large portion of jobs in industrialized nations. The first version of the article mentioned Steve Kuhnau's lactose intolerance and that the franchise company had more than 870 units worldwide (very interesting article, lost in supposed 'wikification'). The expanse seems to be to 32 US states.[[2] Except for mention of leadership changes, this Wikipedia article covers 2012-2014, but last year it was awarded "#1 Juice Bar Franchise on Entrepreneur Magazine's Annual Franchise 500 list, marking the 27th year the brand has occupied the top spot. "(2019)[3] Is there no way to make articles interesting to read, not merely succinct and encyclopedic? MaynardClark (talk) 14:59, 22 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

I've inquired at the reliable-sources noticeboard about the appropriateness of Fast Casual as a reliable source. The second is right out, though, because "Fandom (formerly Wikia and Wikicities) is considered generally unreliable because open wikis are self-published sources." As for citing Smoothie King's own website, that's the sort of area that's iffy; the criteria at WP:ABOUTSELF need to be followed fastidiously, and we don't want to overuse self-published sources so as to overwhelm secondary sources. I'll keep an eye on the noticeboard discussion, and will read that third source for potentiality if you'd like. — Fourthords | =Λ= | 18:12, 22 August 2020 (UTC)Reply
I am not advocating them AS sources but noting that the article we now have is not as interesting (or IMO informative) as the original article and that information we could use (in sources we don't allow) is 'out there' and likely available IN more reputable and highly-regarded online sources. IMO we become lazy when we look ONLY in online sources, but that is how the fast-paced worlds of citation work. MaynardClark (talk) 20:55, 22 August 2020 (UTC)Reply
Oh, okay. Sorry, I misunderstood! — Fourthords | =Λ= | 17:22, 23 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

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