Talk:Simon Cowell/Archive 1

Removed

I changed the spelling of 'millenium' to 'millennium'. This is a common error, even on shop-fronts. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Slyzenoui (talk • contribs) 00:26, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

you should include this:

"Simon rejects £1 million offer to be face of Viagra" http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2008/03/03/2008-03-03_simon_cowell_rejects_viagra_offer.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.130.136.55 (talk) 01:23, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Check out this article about his new show, America's got talent Season 3

http://www.nypost.com/seven/06172008/tv/drag__not_talentsimons_show_better_than__115836.htm

Removed

"I hate him, he said I couldn't sing and look wierd. :(" (Cipher Destiny 18:46, 26 August 2006 (UTC))

If this helps...

Julie Cowell was brought up in the city of Brighton and the family did live there for a number of years. It seems that they moved after the birth of Nick. Julie Cowell moved back to Brighton and now lives in Ovingdean, just east of the city centre. Nick got married a couple of years ago in the nearby village of Rottingdean.

IDOL

Never watched IDOL was but I did play in a band signed (and still signed) with Virgin. The question: why are non-musicians and pop star has beens (I haven't played for years so that's me as well by the way) selected as judges?

Because real stars have better gigs.

Picture

Can't we have a better picture then a black-and-white one with his nose blocked by some words? Maybe someone could get one of him on The X Factor? Thelb⁴ 20:41, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

Monolithic article

Hi, Wasted Time, I am not sure about that, that the article doesn't work with separately-headed sections. It could be done in such a way that separate sections bring in different aspects of his life or career. It works with almost any other article. This way, it is just one monolithic slab where one has to go through the whole to find separate aspects every time one looks for them. Don't forget, as time goes on more and more will be added, and eventually it will certainly be necessary, to make it more convenient. The only thing is that it may need to be reorganised somewhat, but I am sure it can be done. Dieter Simon 22:30, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

In the mean time someone else seems to have grappled with it in a different way and put a "Biography" section in. Dieter Simon

I'm not arguing against the desirability of separately-headed sections, I just didn't think the division points and titles you used were useful. It's hard, given the shape of his career, otherwise I would have done it myself. And if the material is reorganised, it will break the chronological sequence that it has now. Adding just one "Biography" section as someone did isn't very useful, unless it helps a Table of Contents float to the top, which isn't currently an issue. Wasted Time R 22:43, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Agreed, as it stands. It's in the future when a lot more material has been added that someone will have to think about this again. Dieter Simon 01:13, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Punk'D

Is there a way someone could elaborate on this? It would help to know the specifics of what happened on this show. --AWF

Removed - USA

Under Simon's Place of Birth it read Barnet, England, USA

I removed USA from the mini bio, as he was not born in the USA.

Of course he wasn't born in U.S., but is he a citizen by naturalization? —Chantessy 03:31, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

That's unlikely, Chantessy, considering he lives in England most of the time! Sky83 (talk) 12:42, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Birthplace - Barnet or Brighton?

Googling "Simon Cowell" + "born in Barnet" returns only 9 results, whereas "Simon Cowell" + "born in Brighton" returns 216 results.

Does anyone have the definitve answer, with a reliable cite? Pufnstuf 21:15, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

The following influential sites all state Brighton definitely:

• imdb
• TV.com
• www.hollywood.com
• www.mytelevison.com
• infoplease
• uk.movies.yahoo
• newsrefiew.info

Dieter Simon 00:44, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

I've just reverted to Barnet, and added cite needed tag. The problem is many of those sites just copy errors from one another, and imdb is not a reliable source. I found bbc and fox both have Barnet, but they could be wrong too. tv.com has "Birthplace: Brighton, England, UK"; hollywood.com has "Originally from Brighton"; yahoo is a copyvio of hollywood's bio; infoplease.com has "Birthplace: Brighton, England"; the bbc says Barnet and that his mother now lives near brighton, and his brother in London; newsreview.com has "Born in Brighton" by Associated Press writer Jill Lawless (possibly the best cite). Maybe someone needs to email his publicist Max Clifford at either max@mcapr.co.uk or Max.Clifford@speakers-uk.com -213.219.161.27 10:12, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Isn't there a book that he (or a good ghost writer) wrote? None of these trivia sites are remotely reliable and we shouldn't use them for anything. I'll see if I can check the book on Amazon Mad Jack O'Lantern 04:47, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Book says he "Grew up in Elstree". Words brighton or Barnet don't turn up. I'll put in "Grew up in Elstree" and remove the birth place until we can get an actual first-hand source (like an interview/in-depth profile, etc.) Mad Jack O'Lantern 04:51, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Someone's reverted it back to Brighton without citing a reliable source (or any source for that matter). The Biography Channel says he was born in London [1], which rules out Brighton and makes Barnet sound more likely. Cowell's written an autobiography, I'm sure the correct information is in that.172.129.176.39 03:05, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Net Worth

How can Cowell's net worth be less than his annual salary?

Because the latter has exploded (AI is only five years old), but only recently. --zenohockey 04:54, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Net worth has nothing to do with salary (cash flow). -Nv8200p talk 20:07, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Apparently he pays £21.7 million pounds sterling each year in tax, but only earns $43 million dollars? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 217.42.81.144 (talk) 15:57, 16 December 2006 (UTC).

Cowell Jewish

What evidence is there that Cowell is Jewish? As with many articles, someone keeps claiming British media celebrities are Jewish, with no evidence.

dunno about Jewish but he has said tonight that he is 1/4 Scottish 86.2.178.168 21:09, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

How can he be listed as being Jewish, when his mother was Jewish and he wasn't brought up as a Jew?

Someone has put that SC has relations with animals. Surely this either needs to be references or removed - the former being prefered but sadly latter more likely.

the former being prefered but sadly latter more likely.

Oh, you are too funny... Imsuchadork 03:30, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Sections

How many sections does this article need?! Trampikey ^{(talk to me)(contribs)} 19:10, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

15. — AnemoneProjectors (talk) 19:54, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Removed

Somebody stated that the model Jasmine Lennard was a co host of the British show Pop Idol but she wasn't even famous when the show aired, I can only assume that the comment was made by someone who has never watched the UK Pop Idol which was hosted by two male presenters Ant and Dec.

In addition I removed an absurd and pointless addition "his sexuality has been questioned but he is admittedly straight"!!BumblebeeUK 01:56, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Trivia

It stated that Simon had said "NO" to Kellie Pickler's audition, however that is not true. He said "YES".

Teletubbies?

Can anyone expound on Simon's relation to the teletubbies?

Are you asking this question because of the constestant Chris Sligh's recent retort to Simon on the show, in which he mentioned the Teletubbies? I suspect that it was a mistaken reference. Chris had probably read (here?) that Simon had created a song for the Power Rangers, but then on the show mistakenly (or maybe intentionally, thinking it was funny) mentioned the Teletubbies instead. WindUpRobot 05:36, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Now to correct myself, here are some references to Simon and the Teletubbies courtesy of Google. WindUpRobot 05:42, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Did he produce the teletubbies? JoeMystical 03:29, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

He was behind the Teletubbies releasing a single "Say Eh Oh" in the UK. I think it might have even charted. Not sure. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.65.252.179 (talk) 01:15, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Private Life section confusing?

There are two names mentioned in the Private Life section for which there is no context. "Seymour" and "Lennard".

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 205.158.128.162 (talk) 21:05, 6 March 2007 (UTC).

Teletubbies? Come on.

Cowell also had the idea for the childrens show "Teletubies".

First of all, if he did, find a source.

Second of all, spell it correctilly, pleese. David 07:55, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

This article really needs a picture.

yes this article really needs a photo of simon... ... its a bit boring just reading the text. a picture will light it up.--Matrix17 16:17, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism

I just reverted some vandalism:

Dead at Age 47 Due to tight black shirts, Simon Cowell's blood circulation was cut off and caused him to have a heart attack. He died in his hotel room after the Top 11 Finalist showing on March 20, 2007. More information to follow. Crion 01:57, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

LOL - platy nov 23 —Preceding comment was added at 22:10, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Controversy

There should be a controversy section. He has been attacked by minorities, overweight people, feminists, homosexuals and other groups of losers for some of the comments he's made. BTW we all know that the only reason Idol has lasted this long is because people like me are eager to hear what Simon has to say.

• that was vaguely insulting. - platy nov 23

Vaguely? --Ye Olde Luke (talk) 03:06, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

References reentered, which had been removed some time ago

I think unregistered editors should not be able to access this article. The "References" list had been removed for many days and stayed removed. Without it some of the dubious statements made in the "Personal life" para for example, could not be verified. I am surprised Simon hasn't thrown a defamation suit at us. Let's put it this way, we are going the right way about it if we are continuing to let this happen. The "nose-picking" item was in for quite a number of days. If it weren't just too childish, it could be a lot more serious. Why expose Wikipedia to this sort of nonsense? Dieter Simon 23:19, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Rudi and the Gays

Why did the thing about Rudi and the Gays making references get deleted. that is true. it should be re-posted. check out the rudie and the gays page. --Charzar2 14:53, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

There was no such show called "Rudi and the Gays". The article was deleted because it was made-up nonsense. -- ArglebargleIV 14:56, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

is he really a vegetarian i know he publicly does a lot of work for peta but is he a vegetarian

Picture Missing

This page is missing a picture. Maybe someone who's taken photos of him could download one? I would, but I don't have any pictures of him. Thanks, Meldshal42 20:43, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

I saw an episode of Rudy and the gays the other day and Simon Cowell was on it. This should be mentioned in the article. Nooblet4 00:42, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Chronology

The chronology of this article needs to be improved. Specifically, under "Professional career", it is mentioned that Cowell signed a five-year contract renewal in 2006 for American Idol, two paragraphs before it is mentioned when he started on Pop Idol and then American Idol. --Metropolitan90 06:54, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

My edit

I toned down some language. "Cowell went so far as to call..." is not neutral language. "Cowell called..." is much better. The reference doesn't indicate whether the person he said "Bush baby" to was disabled. That a contenstant "had a disorder" is so vague as to mean nothing.

It's also stupid to say "Cowell offended obese people". Cowell offends everybody; fat, thin, black, white, short, tall, and probably would offend someone with two heads if they auditioned for the show. 199.71.183.2 19:43, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Income deduction based on incorrent premise

It's not accurate to estimate that Cowell pays 40% income tax. Anybody of substantial wealth who is not an employee is very likely to use the full range of options availed to them by UK tax law to reduce their tax payment significantly below 40% of income. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.224.61.182 (talk) 23:18, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

record producer?

if simon is such a great record producer, why i don't i know what he's produced? i'd like to see a list. where does this crude man get his credibility? - platy nov 23 —Preceding comment was added at 22:12, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Cowell is not a record producer. He is a promoter. I don't believe he's ever produced anything musically. There was a reference to Eternal Flame by the Bangles. That was produced by Davitt Sigerson, and recorded by John Beverly Jones, mixed by Filipetti. Cowell had nothing to do with the production of it.FungasUK (talk) 18:01, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

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Citations added 20/01/08

Have added a couple of citations to the references suggesting Cowell was a record producer. I previously went so far as to amend a version, by changing the quote to "record promoter", as I firmly believe that's what Cowell was during the 80s. However, the version was replaced with the identical quotes from before, so I feel like I'm banging my head against a wall. Anyway, I remember footage of him as a young lad, appearing on Saturday morning telly (something like "Saturday Superstore"), early 80s sort of era. There's no way this kid was a producer; in fact he was brought on as some sort of promoter, or a figure within the music industry. Anyway, if anybody can provide citations, I;d be well interested to read them. FungasUK (talk) 20:20, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Discussion of some of the categories in relation to this article

Hi Rodhullandemu, re your request of discussing some of the categories in relation to halacha in the summary bar of the article, can you explain your point to all the good people who are reading this: "Rv, this needs discussion with respect to halacha and needs to be conducted on article's talk age..)". Many thanks. Dieter Simon (talk) 01:36, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

An anon IP deleted categories citing what I thought were spurious reasons, and I did a quick Google and replaced them, believing that to be the test; however, it appears that halacha is disputable, and I have just looked at Talk:List_of_British_Jews#Jewishness and decided that no reliable source within those criteria has been provided for inclusion of those categories, which is why I leave it here. I'm not an expert, and I leave it to those who are. The cursory discussion above is hardly authoritative. --Rodhullandemu (Talk) 01:47, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes, thank you, I have actually rectified the source that was given at an earlier time, but like yourself am not sure just how reliable the source is, but at least one can find the citation now which one couldn't before. Dieter Simon (talk) 02:11, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, made my remarks slightly less verbose. Dieter Simon (talk) 02:14, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Rudy and the Gays

Resolved

 – user blocked - a lesson to others

Wasn't Simon Cowell on a few episodes of this show? Maybe not. but if he was it sould be in the article . that show was great Nooblet1 (talk) 15:59, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

What show? It doesn't show up in Google. And considering your article on it has been deleted- several times- I doubt it will ever happen, because it can't be referenced. --Rodhullandemu (Talk) 16:07, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Controversy section

The controversy section sounds like something from a blog about interesting facts and tidbits for people who like to hate Simon. The whole section sounds like WP:OR, there are no references whatsoever (let alone WP:RS) and I question the notability of Simon calling someone a bush baby (he's probably called people worse things than that but please don't take this as a challenge to go list them all) as well as accusations of rolling his eyes when he didn't. In conclusion, this section is not encyclopedic, it doesn't belong here. SWik78 (talk) 12:51, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Edits today

This diff is vandalism as is the next one by DW Celt (see a phrase introduced in the middle). Apologies if I have undone an improvement by anyone. -- roundhouse0 (talk) 12:40, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Leona Lewis

Odd that there's no mention in the article of Leona Lewis, his protege and arguably the most successful of all his acts. 86.153.218.173 (talk) 19:11, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Personal Life

Income tax information was sourced from a Jeremy Clarkson article. This should be removed due to the context of a joke written in an article from an author known to exaggerate for comedic purposes. 131.202.11.233 (talk) 13:00, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Why write about such trash as he? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.117.75.138 (talk) 11:23, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Because he's WP:NOTABLE. There are articles about far less pleasant individuals. Cheers, This flag once was red^propaganda_deeds 11:37, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

And the 40% UK tax bracket is wrong. £34,600 is taxable income - you need to add on the tax allowance of £5,225 too - ie £39,825. (For 2007/8 tax year.) Bigbird3141 (talk) 21:19, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

American?

He is in the category American music industry executives. Does he hold American citizenship, or dual citizenship of the UK and the USA? Whilst he is influential in America's music industry, if he does not actually hold American citizenship, then surely he should not be in said category. Werdnawerdna (talk) 21:35, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Looking at the category, although it isn't defined, it seems to be populated by "Americans who are music industry executives" rather than "People who are executives in the American music industry". Goodness only knows what the creator of the category had in mind, or its inherent laxity of definition, but on the basis of who's there already, he should go. Unless he has dual American nationality. --Rodhullandemu 21:49, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Simon has 2 additional half brothers: John and June

{{editsemiprotected}}

Professional career

"Simon left by mutual agreement a few years later then one year later, Cowell went to work for Iain Burton" This part of the text makes little sense, and would be greatly improved with a full stop to break it up ie: "Simon left by mutual agreement a few years later. A year later, Cowell went to work for Iain Burton" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.142.47.125 (talk) 18:21, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Don't you think that's something's missing here? There's a void in this person's life, a black hole. What happened to Cowell between 1989 and 2006. Someone must know. And another thing....... Is it of interest to anyone (or worthy of an encyclopedic article) that his paternal grandparents were Jewish. The fact that this may be true doesn't make Cowell Jewish, not that that would be very relevant either. Colin marks (talk) 07:21, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Someone please add a link to Rondo Veneziano.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Trafficstar (talk • contribs) 06:26, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism

Metrospex (now banned for sockpuppetry) slipped in a comment about Simon being an 'utter plonker', in front of a legitimate quote. It's the 13 July edit in the history. Since the article's semi-protected and I don't have an account, I can't delete it. Somebody? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.172.137.89 (talk) 08:52, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

I can't see anything about an 'utter plonker' in the most up-to-date version of the article and it's not been edited since you added this to the talk page. Are you sure it's still in the article? --5 albert square (talk) 21:29, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Cupid

Simon was the executive producer of a "reality" dating series called "Cupid" that aired in the Summer of 2003. The show didn't do very well in the ratings, and it appears that a proposed British version was never aired. Should this be added to the main article as it shows other series that he has been involved with, and specifically one that failed? http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/american-idol-simon-cowell-creates-new-cupid-dating-reality-show-871.php —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.41.155.62 (talk) 18:05, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Early life

Cowell was born in Brighton, East Sussex, England and brought up in Elstree, Hertfordshire. His father, Eric Philip Cowell, was an estate agent developer and music industry executive, and his mother, Julie Brett (née Josie Dalglish), is a former ballet dancer and socialite. Cowell's paternal grandparents, Joseph Cowell and Esther Malinsky, were English Jews, and his maternal grandfather was Scottish. He has 1 brother, younger brother Nicholas Cowell, and 4 half-siblings, Tony Cowell, Michael Cowell, June Cowell (who lives in Majorca with her two daughters) and John Cowell. Michael is the oldest, followed by John, June Tony, Simon and Nicholas, (in that specific order).

Cowell attended Oathall Community College as did his brother, but left early before sixth form. He took a few menial jobs, but did not get along well with co-workers and bosses, until his father who was executive at the recording giant at EMI Music Publishing, managed to get him a job in the mail room.

Sorry, can't make head or tail of this; could you edit it so that we can, please? --Rodhullandemu 12:12, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

I agree - this is difficult to understand because you have inserted your signature using ~~~~ in various places in the first paragraph. I have removed all of them for now - but made some construction changes to reflect what I think you are trying to write. If June Cowell is a sibling with one parent in common with Simon - I think she'd be a half-sister since the context implies a woman ("her daughters"). Please edit the above paragraph (I've inserted a <div> code to make the proposed changes more obvious Lachoneus 16:26, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Note on references - the added references "celebritywonder.com" and Hello! contradict each other in that CW includes a full sister that Hello! does not. Also CW does not have an article on Wikipedia - so I doubt it is a reliable source. Additionally, Hello! looks, from first glance, like a tabloid of dubious factual integrity; however it looks like it is a wide selling tabloid that has some editorial standards so it may be a reliable source on this kind of information. Lachoneus 16:54, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

This is probably nit-picky, but "until his father who was executive at the recording giant" should have an "an" in there before "executive". --Toney the ninja (talk) 17:49, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

and WESTLIFE?!!!

Westlife is an Irish pop band that was formed on July 3rd, 1998. They were signed on by """Simon Cowell""" and are currently managed by Louis Walsh. Over the years, Westlife's music has evolved from teen pop to an adult contemporary sound, with an emphasis on ballads.

The group's original lineup comprised Nicky Byrne, Kian Egan, Mark Feehily, Shane Filan, and Brian McFadden. Filan and Feehily are the band's lead vocalists. All of the band members are songwriters, although most of their hits have been composed by external writers. They garnered 14 number one singles in the United Kingdom, the third-highest in UK history, tying with Cliff Richard and tailing behind Elvis Presley and The Beatles. The band has also won numerous awards such as the "Best Irish Pop Act" at the annual Ireland Meteor Awards and ITV "Record of the Year" award in the UK. The band has also broken a few top records, including "Music artist with most consecutive number 1's in the UK" and the "Biggest selling arena act in the UK". Westlife have had 14 UK no.1's and were the first act in UK history to have 4 number 1s in a year. Not only that, they were the only band to have no.1's with their first 7 singles. All the rest of their hits have got to the top 10, if not the top 5.

For 10 years in the running, they have released six Studio Albums, one Greatest Hits album, one tribute album, one Cover Album, two Boxed sets, two Compilation Albums, twenty-six singles. All in all, it has been declared that they sold more than 50 million albums worldwide

Looking at Westlife's article, it would be easy to get the impression that Cowell's influence at the start of their career was less than great, and their success is almost entirely due to Louis Walsh. In terms of this article, then, that would make it a minor detail. Unless you have a reliable source that says otherwise? Thanks. --Rodhullandemu 19:53, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Looking at the Westlife article, it's not clear what Simon Cowell's influence was at the start but I don't see any evidence it was less then great. The article mentions they did not meet his standards early on and two members were sacked and two new ones brought in. Westlife then went on to have a very successful career and of the two new members, one is still a part of Westlife, the other left of his own violition and went on to have a mildly successful solo career. Of course perhaps the early band would have been just as successful if not more so but we will never know but I think it's fair to say there's no clear evidence the influence Cowell had was anything but good overall for the band (even if not for the two who were fired). Being a manager/producer does of course mean that you may have to sack people who don't meet your requirements and doing so is no clear indication of poor performance on the part of the manager. I agree though we need more sources to show Westlife was of any great significance to Simon Cowell Nil Einne (talk) 13:07, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Ethnic background

I see no valid source to validate the claim that his grandparents were Jewish. Therefore, that statement should be removed. John O —Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnnyorland (talk • contribs) 00:59, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

This has now been sourced. Dieter Simon (talk) 23:14, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Fear of Owls

{{editsemiprotected}} I believe it would benefit this article to include his unconfirmed fear of owls, started by a popular internet cartoon

www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/Owls/

 Not done - Not relevant/notable to the article --ThaddeusB (talk) 20:36, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

I've seen this nonsense added before, by singularly persistent vandals. If it's added in again, there will be WP:BLOCKs for disruption. Rodhullandemu 20:40, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

And Westlife?,he is Executive Producer and friend of WESTLIFE

westlife is the most important band in life of Simon

• executive producer:

http://www.discogs.com/Westlife-Westlife/release/690669 http://www.discogs.com/Westlife-Coast-To-Coast/release/690712 http://www.discogs.com/Westlife-World-Of-Our-Own/release/714873

• videos about simon and westlife
• http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VUk2A4wxAY
• http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmV42FW5VtY&feature=related
• http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4aQPUa35UM&feature=related

Nothing in these links makes the point you seek to make. We can't use the YouTube links as reliable sources, because they are copyright violations. Meanwhile, there is already a thread above; feel free to put an argument there, but a disconnected set of links just doesn't cut it. Rodhullandemu 23:40, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

what is you problem?,is obvious WESTLIFE is the most important project of Simon Cowell. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.248.44.87 (talk) 02:50, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Comparing Got Talent with So You Think You Can Dance?

The show was a huge success for NBC, drawing around 12 million viewers a week, and beating So You Think You Can Dance on FOX (produced by rival and Idol creator Simon Fuller).

Why is This being pitched against “So You Think You Can Dance”? What is the relevance and where is the data to support? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 19Ent (talk • contribs) 16:57, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Unbalanced

Presumably he has also had a successful career and so forth, does anyone else think the lead is over-focused on his "nasty" cult of personality? SGGH ^ping! 20:08, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

The phrase "television personality" deserves expansion. The most obvious personality attributes that come across on television are those such as superficial, unwarrantedly smug, slightly unpleasant, unimportant, of little presence, of small stature, unnoteworthy. For these he is, indeed a mediocre exemplar. However, are they what is meant by 'a personality'? Or is such a description implicitly derogatory, being a metaphor for having nothing really of note about them other than a slightly laughable brashness for which a little pity might be felt. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.145.23.52 (talk) 10:45, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

You missed out hypocritical. He makes wild claims about his love of rock music but how many rock acts has he ever helped create? None. He makes music that he doesn't even like because that's where the money is (like he needs more!)82.152.45.145 (talk) 21:53, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

?

I’m going to change Simon cowell back to being English, some one seems to have changed it to British at some point with no consensus and these sorts of edits seem petty and just plain unnecessary. Last time I checked he was described as English. Please remember it is perfectly fine and within NPOV to describe all people from the UK as being either English/Scottish/Welsh/Nirish. Adam אָדָם (talk) 20:44, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

I'd need to check the article's history, but there's a banned sock puppeteer who's on a mission to make everything Scottish Scottish, and everything English British - since they're now banned they can be reverted without hesitation (ping me if you need pointers to identifying them). In general it's down to individual articles - if a subject identifies as "English" the article should reflect that, but there are sometimes good reasons to list a subject as "British" (I don't think that applies here, though). Cheers, This flag once was red^propaganda_deeds 10:18, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

I think it's all a bit questionable really.. I describe myself as British.. but then again I am Welsh & English.. P.S guys, I've added a bit to the bottom of his 'personal life' section about his 'depressive moods'.. Dvmedis (talk) 05:31, 2 June 2009 (UTC) How can you be Welsh AND English? You can only have one nationality - if you don't know what it is then ask yourself which team you would support if Wales played against England? That'll soon tell you what your nationality is!82.152.45.145 (talk) 21:51, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

On the X factor episode on the 22nd of August Cowell described himself as Scottish, therefore I think he should either be described as that or British. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.142.142.35 (talk) 10:52, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Semi-protected

This article has been semi-protected for FIFTEEN MONTHS. Does it really need to stay that way? -DrGaellon (talk | contribs) 20:01, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

I'd say it doesn't. I feel I should remember why the article is protected, but I can't - I'll check. Regardless, I doubt it should still be protected, unless there was and is still a serious WP:BLP issue? Cheers, TFOWR^{This flag once was red} 20:03, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Ah, it may well be a potential WP:BLP issue. It might be worth chatting with Acalamari, the admin who protected the article. Cheers, TFOWR^{This flag once was red} 20:05, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

I posted an un-protect request at WP:RFPP and the article is now unprotected! Cheers, TFOWR^{This flag once was red} 19:14, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Request

Hi everyone

Sorry but I have had to request semi-protection of this article again. Since it was last unprotected about 10 days ago, the majority of edits to the article have been vandalism. Apologies to those who made genuine edits, but I really felt that this was the best way to go. My request for semi-protection has been granted for 6 months --5 albert square (talk) 22:21, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Don't be sorry. That's what it is all about, there is far too much vandalism about and this is the only way we can stop it. Dieter Simon (talk) 22:33, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

The unprotection was provisional, and sadly it looks like re-protection is necessary. Cheers, TFOWR^{This flag once was red} 22:56, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

It seems to have done the trick, TFOWR, there haven't been any vandalisms by anon or unregistered editors since. Dieter Simon (talk) 23:05, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Yes I think we scared them into keeping quiet! --5 albert square (talk) 23:27, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

OK, having to restart this as the page is now unlocked again and now undergoing vandalism again. Can we please stop the vandalism on the page? If it doesn't stop then it's simple, the page will be protected again. If anonymous IPs cause the vandalism, the page will ask for semi-protection at the very least, if established editors cause the disruption then the page will be fully protected which means that nobody other than admins can edit the page. Please contribute constructively to the article, thank you for your co-operation --5 albert square (talk) 21:46, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Dunstable

Simon Cowell is listed at Dunstable#Notable people, but the town is not mentioned in this article. If anyone knows of a reliable source connecting him to the town, please can they add the information here. (Note that a mirror of the Dunstable Wikipedia article is not a reliable source.) If after one month there is no confirmation, I will remove the link from the Dunstable article. JonH (talk) 22:20, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Misleading commentary in the article

In the article it says, 'Talking about Christina herself Cowell stated "She is an unbelievable talent"' A quick check on the Wikepedia page for Christina Aguilera reveals that she is signed to the Sony BMG label, a label that Cowell has close connections with. I can't add a comment to highlight that. Maybe someone else with privileges could. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.187.233.172 (talk) 07:59, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Older brother

According to this youtube clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c66iHzycTXw Nicolas is Simon's older brother, not younger.

Whoever wrote "Michael is the oldest, followed by Tony, Simon and Nicholas respectively" in early life, please show citation for that, or it will be changed. --Messenger777 (talk) 14:05, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

"He has 1 brother and 2 half-brothers; younger brother Nicholas Cowell, half-brother Tony Cowell, and half-brother Michael Cowell. Michael is the oldest, followed by Tony, Simon and Nicholas respectively.[citation needed]" is poorly constructed. Cowell has two older half brothers, Michael and Tony and a younger brother Nicholas., would be much better. (Someone else will have to correct the positioning of the brothers. I am just doing grammar today.) Bluepencileditor (talk) 22:58, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Personal Life

"Cowell the godfather of pop singer Sinitta's adopted children.[49]" is an incomplete sentence. It needs a verb. "Is" will work. Bluepencileditor (talk) 22:53, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Sorry about that, I removed it when I was rewording some of the sentences in that section. Sorafune +1 23:00, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Flu

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Simon has missed 2 days of auditions for Britain's Got Talent 2010 live auditions due to haveing flu, first time in his 10 year talent show career. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1248196/Flu-stricken-Simon-Cowell-forced-miss-day-Birmingham-auditions.html

Done --5 albert square (talk) 22:47, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

If this is considered to be important, I might as well give up here. Rodhullandemu 23:04, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

I've not given it undue weight, I've only added something like two sentences --5 albert square (talk) 00:40, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Fair enough, but why does it even need to be mentioned?. People get ill; it temporarily stops them from doing what they normally do. That's life. It's not as if Albert Einstein had been prevented from formulating the General Theory of Relativity because he had a little sniffle, and it's tedious minor detail such as this that really does make Wikipedia look more like a blog rather than what it is intended to be, which is a broad overview of knowledge, and not a blow-by-blow account of what "celebrities" do or do not not do. Overall, it's supremely irrelevant, since we are not a cheapo TV/cinema/z-list celeb magazine. In a month's time, this information will be as irrelevant as it is now, unless Cowell dies from a snffle. Rodhullandemu 00:57, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Grammar

"Simon Phillip Cowell (born 7 October 1959) is an British music executive," Does anyone else see the grammatical error in this? Sorry to sound like a pedant but it needs to be changed, it's the first line of the entire page and is a disgusting reflection of how us users congregate to edit pages. (For those of you who do not know, it should be changed to "a British music") I briefly read somewhere that someone changed it from "English" to "British", so perhaps that's when the flaw occurred, if so could it either be reverted back to its previous settings or if not then could someone at least fix this grammatical error!

 Done will change it from "an" to "a", thanks for pointing it out! --5 albert square (talk) 20:54, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Where's the neutral POV???

In the "Idol franchise and Il Divo" section, he's immediately categorised as a nasty son of a bitch with only rude criticism. The section also states that he is regularly booed at before he starts speaking. I haven't watched much of the program, but as far as I'm aware, Simon Cowell is the only reason the show ever got popular, so why describe him as a nasty bastard? While some of it is true, there doesn't seem to be anything neutral about the section at all. Powerchicken (talk) 21:00, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

I think that was possibly because he does have a tendency to really slate performers that he doesn't like and in fairness he is known as "Mr Nasty"! However I agree that this was given undue weight and possibly violated WP:NPOV so it's gone :) --5 albert square (talk) 21:31, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 170.12.1.244, 13 September 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} The portion of the article that discusses Simon's appearances in various media mentions that he appeared in Shrek 2 as one of the judges on "Far, Far Away Idol". It should have specified that this appearance is in the home DVD version of the film and not, of course, the theatre version.

170.12.1.244 (talk) 14:18, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

• Question: Could you reference this change for me please? -- Crazysane (^T/_C\^D) 17:26, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Done I've managed to find a reference, thanks for pointing that out --5 albert square (talk) 21:00, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Earnings claim in 'Personal life' section

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'Upon his appearance on Top Gear, it was revealed that Cowell pays more than £21.7m per year in income tax, suggesting that his taxable income is over £54.25m per year with income tax at the time approximately 40%.'

Is this earnings claim of ~ £50 m, derived from a figure given in a Times Online article by Jeremy Clarkson, truly reliable? If you read the relevant part of that article, the £21.7 m figure appears to be given as an off-hand (i.e. made up) remark by Jeremy Clarkson (not renowned for being a reliable narrator). It doesn't appear to be a statement of fact, backed up by any evidence - but just the author's opinion or estimate.

I think the above statement should be removed from the article.

Not done: We are never going to get it from a more reliable source what his taxable income is - that would be down to Mr Cowell if he wanted to make that public, not them. I've read the article, I don't think that figure is made up. If you google it you will find hundreds more reliable sources are stating the same. Wikipedia goes on verifiability, we have more than one reliable source stating this figure so we go with this rather than what we think the figure may be --5 albert square (talk) 18:25, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Lightning

Simon just changed his name legally by deed poll on The Xtra Factor to Lightning Cowell, saying he would change it back in 24 hours. Not really sure this should be mentioned though. Not even sure how legal it was. AnemoneProjectors 21:29, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Wrong Name for Mr Cowell

I believe by section 4 of the Deed Poll Serivce, he is now called "Lighting Cowell"

d —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.203.253.122 (talk) 21:32, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

See what I just said above. AnemoneProjectors 21:36, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Fully protected for 24 hours, since people don't seem to understand WP:RECENTISM or that this is a temporary change, this "might" be mentioned in the article, but does not warrant a major change to the lead. Showbusiness might be full of stupid peacockery, but we do not need to follow it like lemmings. Rodhullandemu 21:46, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Good move. AnemoneProjectors 21:48, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

• On a legal note: changing name by "deed poll" requires a solicitor or Notary Public, and I doubt he'd find either at hand (at least at cheap rates) on a Saturday or Sunday evening. Let's not make ourselves look as a a big a fool as he has. Rodhullandemu 21:49, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

(ec) What people "believe" is neither here nor there as far as WP is concerned. We need a citation from a reputable source, and that does NOT include Cowell making some flippant and totally inconsequential remark on The Xtra Factor, with a truth value of zero. As one who has himself recently changed his name legally, I can tell you doing so takes a considerable amount of thought and it's not something you reverse, particularly not "24 hours later". -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 21:51, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

• I don't think the legalities are relevant at all, as there are many people listed under their chosen name, not necessarily their legally correct name. However, WP:RECENTISM seems to sum up the issue nicely enough. Cream147 _{Shout at me for doing wrong} 21:56, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from UKDeedPollService, 10 October 2010

{{edit protected}}

On 9th October 2010, live on The Xtra Factor, Cowell changed his name by deed poll from 'Simon Phillip Cowell' to 'Lightning Cowell' for 24 hours.

UKDeedPollService (talk) 01:28, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
 Declined. No. Even if there were such an organisation as the "UK Deed Poll Service", it wouldn't operate in the early hours of a Sunday morning. Also see above comments. Rodhullandemu 02:12, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Request to Add Link to External Link Section

Can this link be added to the external link section please?

www.simoncowellonline.co.uk

This is the ONLY fan site for Simon Cowell and we feel it warrants a place in the external links section.

Kind regards

Admin Team

Simon Cowell Online Simoncowellonline1 (talk) 15:43, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Simoncowellonline1, 22 June 2011

Would you consider adding our Simon Cowell Fan Site to the external links section of the page please. Although we are an unofficial site, we have been supported by Simon's PR. The site is current and updated daily, most of the links on the page are old ones which haven't been updated for sometime. Our site contains a blog, a bio, videos, photos, media interviews and all the latest news on the X Factor USA. Our website address is http://www.simoncowellonline.co.uk

Simoncowellonline1 (talk) 15:39, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Per WP:FANSITE We do not link fan sites. Jnorton7558 (talk) 06:58, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from , 15 November 2011

Could you change simon cowell's nationality to British instead of English?

Regards

86.23.3.75 (talk) 00:17, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Could you please change simon cowell's nationality to British instead of English? 

regards

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. Review your talk page for the same situation. CTJF83 00:31, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Simon Cowell's Birth Place is wrong

According to IMDB and many other biography sites, Simon Cowell's Birthplace is Brighton, East Sussex. This is clearly incorrect in the wikipedia article which claims that his birthplace is in Lambeth, London.

Source: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1101562/bio http://realitytv.about.com/od/americanidol5/p/SimonCowell.htm

They never put that he signed One Direction, either :'( — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.96.237.130 (talk) 14:39, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Falling out with Cheryl Cole

The statement (at the end of the article) regarding falling out with Cheryl Cole, and this being due to political views, is from an unreliable source and should be deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.206.125.181 (talk) 23:05, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Deed Poll

On The Xtra Factor, Konnie Huq gave Simon a Deed Poll in which he changed his name from Simon Phillip Cowell to Lightning Cowell and therefore, for twenty-four hours, he was, legally, Lightning Cowell. Is this not relevant? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.160.102.100 (talk) 19:06, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

External Links

Please can this be added to Simon Cowell "External Links" please

www.simoncowellonline.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.180.36.100 (talk) 18:50, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

 Not done. See WP:FANSITE. Fat&Happy (talk) 22:36, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Website to be added to the External Links Please.

May I request my website is added to the External Links on the Simon Cowell page please. http://www.justsimoncowell.com

We are the leading news site on the web for Simon Cowell and have over 50k followers on twitter. Our site is dedicated to news on Simon and his company Syco Entertainment. The news page is updated daily and all the television shows he appears on are fully covered. We have pages on his Bio, Charities, X Factor, Britain's Got Talent and much more.

 Not done Please see WP:FANSITE for more information.--5 albert square (talk) 21:14, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Semi-protected page edit request

The section "X Factor USA" needs to be changed to reflect the changes in the judging panel. Simon Cowell currently judges X Factor USA alongside L.A. Reid, Demi Lovato, and Britney Sp — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.48.32.27 (talk) 07:02, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

There is a reference to Sinitta's album Rondo Veneziano, which of course is a mistake that has crept in over the lest 18 months due to incorrect editing. I'd suggest that it's reworded from 'her album Rondo Veneziano' to simply 'Rondo Veneziano' — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.211.31.10 (talk) 16:38, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

Labels

The infobox says: "Labels - EMI, E&S Music, Fanfare Records, BMG, S Records, Sony Music Entertainment, Syco". What exactly is Simon Cowell's role in all those labels? The only one he actually owns is Syco. On the pages of all others he is not even mentioned. At all. Not a word. WHO is he and why are those labels mentioned in his infobox? If it's the numerous places he worked at and been kicked out, then it should be said more clearly. BadaBoom (talk) 03:43, 10 January 2013 (UTC) I see the problem now. A musical artist infobox was used instead of entrepreneur. Needs change. Meanwhile I removed all those labels from the infobox because he is not signed to them. And never has been. BadaBoom (talk) 03:51, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

I agree that he shouldn't have a musical artist infobox. Wouldn't {{infobox person}} be better? –AnemoneProjectors– 10:44, 10 January 2013‎ (UTC)

You'll need to sign that. And I agree about the person infobox. BadaBoom (talk) 13:10, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

(Off topic) You could have signed it for me :-) Done it now. –AnemoneProjectors– 13:39, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

You're a big boy already. :-) You guys want me to try using the person template or will someone do it? I'm warning you, I've never done this before, so if I break something, I won't be able to fix it. :-)) BadaBoom (talk) 07:29, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

I might as well do it as I'm here. It's just a case of changing "musical artist" to "person" and removing two fields (label and associated acts). –AnemoneProjectors– 11:11, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

There might be other fields to add but I'm not going to look into that myself. –AnemoneProjectors– 11:14, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

No Wonderdog!

Cowell's very first brush with fame was when he appeared on the BBC's 'Top of the Pops' as "Wonderdog" in 1982 at the age of 23. His song, which consisted entirely of dog barks set to music, actually reached No 31 in the UK charts. His very first outing....yet no mention in the main article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.45.250.150 (talk) 19:43, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Between EMI mail room and Idol

I was hoping to find some information about Simon's career before becoming a judge on Idol. This article hops from the EMI mail room to arguably the most famous judge of musical talent in the world. What did Simon do in between those jobs? How did he become a someone who evaluates or hunts for musical talent? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.238.29.45 (talk) 01:58, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Jewish

Why is that when any celebrity has any hint of being Jewish in their background,it is always one of the first things revealed about him/her. It is always invariably irrelevant to the person's identity. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.57.33.27 (talk) 01:33, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Because they take everybody's money and never give it back to you. 75.221.205.44 (talk) 08:28, 7 September 2013 (UTC) Borat

Pre-American Idol

Pre-American Idol info on Cowell shold be expanded. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.235.39.66 (talk) 03:41, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Income

The section "During his appearance on Top Gear, it was revealed that Cowell pays more than £21.7m per year in income tax, suggesting that his taxable income is over £54.25m per year with income tax at the time approximately 40%.[72][73] (NB: UK Income Tax 40% for earnings over £34,600)." is sourced to a paywalled Times article and an HMRC page about tax rates. Given that the former is in the "Driving" section of the newspaper, from the URL, this looks a lot like the WP:SYNTHESIS combination of a Top Gear quote and HMRC tax rates to make an informed guess. I've cut it until someone can verify that all of this actually appears in the first source and the second isn't required. --McGeddon (talk) 11:37, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 February 2014

It is to my knowledge that Simon Cowell was not born in London as shown, as he was born in Brighton and Hove, his mother still currently resides there. I would therefore ask for this to be changed to the correct city. Many thanks. Tommyeates1234 (talk) 09:14, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(t • e • c)} 19:53, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

why not do it yourself. Not difficult http://www.thebiographychannel.co.uk/biographies/simon-cowell.html Cowell was born in Brighton 81.155.211.56 (talk) 17:34, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

His birth was registered in Lambeth, London. Births are registered in the area in which they took place. Jim Michael (talk) 09:21, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Birthplace

80% of sources, including unofficial biographies and Encyclopedia Britannica, say he was born in Brighton. Using the birth records as a single source may be a red herring - his birth records were updated at a later date due to "incorrect information", whatever that means - so it's very likely that they travelled from Elstree to the nearest major registry office to sort out that mistake. His mum lived in Brighton and is still in that area Davidbod (talk) 09:17, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Lack of detail

There appears to be a chronic lack of detail about his life before TV appearances. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.10.69.23 (talk) 12:14, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Where's Wonderdog?

Simon has been around on tv a lot longer than his more recent career might suggest. In 1982 he made his first foray into the record business with "Wonderdog", which briefly entered the UK charts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuRnwMQkCmY

He subsequently appeared in interviews dressed as the wondrous performing dog. His voice is quite recognizable. http://www.buzzfeed.com/rchemel/simon-cowell-as-wonderdog-4c

206.45.234.71 (talk) 06:37, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

Do you have a reliable source to support this? 5 albert square (talk) 09:25, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

Yes just google "Simon Cowell, Wonderdog". Hundreds of references. The record is also still available.

206.45.234.71 (talk) 20:37, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 17 July 2016

Charlie varcoe8 (talk) 10:42, 17 July 2016 (UTC) he died in a car crash on july 17 2016 according to facebook.

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Facebook is not a reliable source in general per WP:SOCIALMEDIA, you have not provided a link so it's not possible to verify it. nyuszika7h (talk) 11:56, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 August 2016

The external link to Simon Cowell's bio is broken. http://www.digitalreview.net/simon_cowell.html - The website appears to no longer exists.

Could I submit the bio from my website to take it's place please? It is the most comprehensive and detailed biography of Simon Cowell on the web. A comprehensive biography on Simon Cowell

We also have a news page updated daily with the latest news on Simon Cowell and his company Syco Entertainment. A Daily Update News Blog on Simon Cowell

We feel our website will be of interest to anyone reading this page on Simon. The website is 100% factually correct. We also have 280k followers on Twitter.

We are able to supply you with up to date photos we have taken of Simon if you require these, together with a source from our website.

We have the credibility and backing of his PR team at Syco and attend press launches and their at their invitation. Our content is often exclusive to us.

Thank you for your consideration.

justsimoncowell.com

Just Simon Cowell (talk) 13:36, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

 Done

Sounds like a reasonable request to me. Nice site, Sandra. --Hillbillyholiday ^talk 17:43, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

I think we should not include a link to this website and just stick to official ones. If we accept a link to one unofficial site, other sites will request links to theirs and we will be overrun. anemoneprojectors 21:17, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 January 2017

He appeared on an episode of ''[[Who Wants to be a Millionaire?]]'' (the original UK version) should be changed to He appeared on an episode of ''[[Who Wants to be a Millionaire? (UK game show)|Who Wants to be a Millionaire?]]'' (the original UK version). 66.103.163.60 (talk) 02:37, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

Done DRAGON BOOSTER ★ 06:35, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 June 2017

I would like to submit this news blog on Simon Cowell for the 'External Links' section. Simon Cowell News.

I feel this will be of interest to those seeking current and factual information on Simon Cowell.

The news page is dedicated to Simon Cowell and updated regularly with recent articles, it has been operating since 2012. They have 280k followers on Twitter.

Visitors trust this website in providing factual, current and informative articles. It does not deal in speculation or misleading stories.

The team based in London and Los Angeles cover live events, interviews and press conferences through medial invitations providing original and exclusive content.

Thank you for your consideration. SL Harvey (talk) 08:20, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. We very rarely provide access to blogs and fansites which are not the official websites of the topic. Review WP:EL. Izno (talk) 14:32, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Answer to User: Izno The website is a news site updated daily. The blog is solely for distributing news as it happens, we also have a comprehensive biography, charity and media interview page. Simon doesn't have his own website. The site has written and verbal support from both Simon and his company representatives. SL Harvey (talk) 15:03, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. "We" indicates you have a conflict of interest. Please review. As well, please review WP:EL--we do not add what are essentially fan sites. As for written and verbal support, that doesn't mean anything.

Again, please establish consensus. You might consider posting to WT:WikiProject Music to see if someone is interested in adding the link. Izno (talk) 12:16, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

Answer to User: Izno I have read the links but don't understand what it is you need from me, or how to 'establish a consensus'. The site is essentially a news site for Simon Cowell, I thought it would be useful for anyone landing on his page to get up to date news. Other articles in the external link section are very old and out of date - Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SL Harvey (talk • contribs) 07:17, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

1. Please stop flipping |answered= unless you have a reasonable belief that you do have consensus, as that is a requirement for the use of the edit protected template.
2. I have provided a way forward already: You might consider posting to WT:WikiProject Music to see if someone is interested in adding the link. An alternative path might be to post at WP:ELN.
3. In the future, you may actually notify me by using {{u|Izno}} or {{ping|Izno}}.

--Izno (talk) 14:13, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 October 2017

Biographical data, shows nation of birth and one of the places of residence as England. England is not a sovereign nation, is not a member of the United Nations and is not recognized internationally. In these terms the word England should be replaced with the name United Kingdom. By the same terms he should not be described as English. There is only one legal nationality in the UK and that is British. 125.238.111.157 (talk) 10:10, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

 Not done as Wikipedia:Nationality of people from the United Kingdom - Arjayay (talk) 17:03, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

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American?

I notice that two days ago, the page got edited to say that he was American, not English. Why? He's been English the entire history of this page until now, and now he's suddenly American. I think this page should say that he's English, not American.

Samn4 (talk) 09:29, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

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Use of past tense is questionable

The opening of this article says "was a judge" but then goes on to mention Britain's Got Talent. Since Cowell is still a judge on "Britain's Got Talent", could the sentence be re-written to include present tense? Vorbee (talk) 19:19, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

looking for someonewho can stand within music industry on 19 June 2018

Am from Africa Uganda I had been looking for such you sir someone has directed me to you my Gmail account is aduulaasadi18@gmail.com am a young and I want to compose music right yes so I need your help — Preceding unsigned comment added by 197.239.35.162 (talk) 14:11, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 July 2018

Not a change request. I see the link to Disambiguation at the top of the page

This article is about the music executive. For the author and television presenter, see Simon Cowell (presenter).

links to a Wildlife Charity page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wildlife_Aid_Foundation

Is it working as intended? Foyol (talk) 00:36, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

Yes and no. The article about the "other" Simon Cowell was cleared out and redirected to his foundation about three years ago, since he didn't meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines on his own merits. I agree that it's a pretty counterintuitive link, and I've removed it per WP:HRULES, which says that linking to redirects is not preferred. ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 16:59, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

Why label certain information as "Vandalism" ?

Looking through edits, I've noticed that Some impartial information about his history and early life winds up being repeatedly removed and labeled vandalism by the upper echelon in control of this site. WHY? What is so bad about that innocuous information that you regulars are trying so hard to keep it from being a part of the article?

97.107.34.90 (talk) 01:10, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

Vandalism

Can someone do something with the vandalism on this page? --37.188.165.66 (talk) 14:06, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 March 2020

73.199.212.145 (talk) 00:45, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

He will start a book series called "The Wishfits," with his son Eric.

 Done When you make future request, here is what I suggest

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Semi-protected edit request on 2 March 2020

He will start a book series called, "The Wishfits," with his son Eric. 73.199.212.145 (talk) 00:46, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 2 March 2020

He will start a book series called "The Wishfits," with his son Eric. 73.199.212.145 (talk) 00:49, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 15 June 2020

AGT started in 2006 not 2016 2601:643:103:ED20:29D9:A760:CF69:65B7 (talk) 02:45, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. But Cowell wasn't there from the beginning, as far as I can see. Anyway, where exactly does this information need to be changed? RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 03:30, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 August 2020

In last line under Personal life, you have "he was testing it at his home state in California." Drop the word "state" so it reads, "he was testing it at his home in California." ExumWalker (talk) 00:28, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Resolved

Early Career information is wrong

Currently it reads...

"He then found a job with BMG as an A&R consultant and set up S Records under BMG.[24][25] He restarted his career in the music business by creating novelty records with acts such as the puppets Zig and Zag, Power Rangers and World Wrestling Federation."

S Records came much later, after being involved with Arista/BMG labels I.Q. and Connect. So it should say something like this:

"He then found a job with BMG as an A&R consultant and helped set up I.Q. Records and then Connect under BMG. After having a few hits on these labels as the executive producer for a number of hits by Sonia and UK Mixmasters, his label was folded back into the main BMG labels. He decided to launch a number of records with acts/properties that had a large television following, achieving top ten hits for Irish puppets Zig and Zag, the Mighty Morph'n Power Rangers and the superstar wrestlers of WWF"

The first Westlife record credited to S Records came out in 2002, after the band had 9 number ones. 2002 was the same year that Gareth Gates had his first number one (on S Records) with Unchained Melody Therefore the bit about S Records needs to go after "Later acts he signed included Five, Westlife and Teletubbies"

Therefore as S Records was happening around the same time as his early talent show judging success, maybe this section should be retitled "Music Career", especially as there is noting about the Top 40 hit “Ruff Mix” by Wonderdog, Simon Cowell's earliest hit record (when he was involved with E&S Music)' — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.154.173.46 (talk) 14:00, 26 November 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 February 2022

Usman12546 (talk) 23:03, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. SpinningCeres 23:19, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

References

Covid

I don't believe Cowell testing positive for Covid-19 is relevant for an encyclopedia. Otherwise, there'd be little else on the platform nowadays. --2A02:8071:B6A8:1B00:F4E7:48CE:59B1:67E6 (talk) 00:03, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 September 2022

Simon Cowell is not vegan. He still eats white meat. 79.54.174.2 (talk) 12:39, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Article currently says he started eating meat again in 2020 Cannolis (talk) 17:17, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

in the section "personal life" there is written: "In 2019, Cowell became a vegan after doctors advised him to change his diet for health reasons."

he never said that he was vegan, he said he stopped eating red meat after doctors advise him to do it. Following there is a video of him saying he stopped eating red meat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioF3H5s04oc&feature=youtu.be 87.10.245.151 (talk) 16:41, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

Health challenges?

I wonder if Cowell's reported health challenges are noteworthy enough to be included.....a tabloid story said he had injured his spine on an electric bicycle, other stories say he has done extensive plastic surgery on himself. He certainly is starting to appear Ed-Sullivan-like.Createangelos (talk) 10:13, 18 April 2023 (UTC)