Talk:Shark.Aero Shark

Max speed

Why the max speed is 290km/h, which is an estimation from 2011 (according to the ref) ? There is an FAI record from 2015 at 303km/h. http://www.gryfair.cz/en/gryf-magazine/news/416-fai-world-speed-record-is-preliminary-in-sharks-gills. Manufacturer also give max cruise speed  : 300km/h http://shark.aero/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by WSgaT (talk • contribs)

 Fixed - Ahunt (talk) 12:51, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Max speed 290km/h was Sherk's masimum horizontal speed with maximum continuous power.

100HP of ROTAX 912 is maximum power for 5 minutes only - according to ROTAX user manual -

= 300.3 kmph of FAI world speed record was done only with 100HP ... some years ago..

All of Shark records, performed by Eric Barberini were done without wheel doors - because wheel doors was something, producer COMP-LET / Shark.aero wanted to finish personally...

A ten years after first flight, producer appended wheel doors - and Shark is flying now faster = above 300kmph.

So actually 300km/h of max cruise speed ... can be correct :)

5 min. flight can be from this reason ... a little bit higher, but it is another question. 85.71.52.226 (talk) 07:42, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

Czech-Slovak origin

Why is only Slovakia marked as the place of origin? The aircraft is Czech-Slovak: the chief designer Jaroslav Dostál is Czech, SHARK.AERO calls itself "Czechoslovak" manufacturer (see the header at https://shark.aero) since the holder of the type certificate (also issued by the Czech autority LAA CR) is a Czech company SHARK.AERO CZ s.r.o. (see https://shark.aero/shark-ul/certificates) with two approved production facilities – one in Hodonín, Czechia and the other one in Senica, Slovakia. I suggest making this fact correct in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DPaccount (talk • contribs) 11:00, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for your note. Both cited refs indicate the company is located in Slovakia. The company's own website gives only one company location: SHARK.AERO s.r.o., Senica Airport, Hlboké 406, 906 31 Hlboké, Slovak Republic. - Ahunt (talk) 13:22, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

Yes, there are two companies SHARK.AERO s.r.o. and SHARK.AERO CZ s.r.o. which are capital-interconnected and jointly manage two production facilities – one in Senica Airport which is also the headquarters of Slovak Shark and one in Hodonín, Czechia. This can be verified in the TC

File:TC EN.jpg

. – DPaccount (talk 15:30, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

What that doesn't explain is relationship between the companies. Is one a subsidiary of the other? - Ahunt (talk) 15:13, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

SHARK.AERO has 10% share in SHARK.AERO CZ. – DPaccount (talk 16:42, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

Curious. So they are independent companies where one has a 10% share and that is it? No key management people in common otherwise? I assume they are not competing with each other for customers, by one offering the aircraft cheaper than the other or with different options? Have they divided up the market geographically or some other way? - Ahunt (talk) 16:03, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

It is just a legal fact. Actually the companies act like a single entity, they are very much interconnected as for management, distribution channels, strategy etc. That’s the reason I kindly ask for marking the aircraft as being Czech-Slovak. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.183.125.119 (talk) 17:02, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

It would be nice to have reference that explains all this, as none of the third-party ones, nor the company websites mention any of this. That said, I have amended the lede para to indicate production in two locations. - Ahunt (talk) 17:41, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

Since the aircraft was designed by Czechs and Slovaks, there are two legal entities and two production facilities in both countries, could Czechia be added also to the "National origin" section in the upper box? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.103.235.165 (talk • contribs)

First off if you are User:DPaccount can you please ensure you are signed in when adding comments or you are going to run afoul of WP:SOCK.

On the question of national origin, we have several reliable sources for Slovakia and none for Czech Republic. If we are going to add this then we need some kind of actual source that explains your claims and can be cited. This can be on one or both of the company websites, but we need something that meets WP:PROVEIT. - Ahunt (talk) 13:32, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

Czech company Shark.aero CZ sro does not have NOTHING connected with original Shark's creators.

Shark was teoretically created by experienced free team of 20-30 specialists, mostly with experiences from big aircraft industry.

- Let Kunovice, known mainly as producer of FAR23 commuters L410 and Blanik gliders, Aerotechnik, Letov, Evektor, COMP-LET.

Excluding Vlado Pekár itself all original team does not have any 0,001% of share or participation and influence in next Shark development, and not more one hour of flying time in their design. 85.71.52.226 (talk) 07:57, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

Got a ref for that? See WP:PROVEIT - Ahunt (talk) 11:46, 16 May 2023 (UTC)