Talk:Sexuality of Adolf Hitler

Semi-protected edit request on 24 October 2022

Changing "after 1973" to 1975, as Stephanie rabtasch dies 22. desember 1975. Ojdawp (talk) 23:43, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:51, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 January 2023

sexuality is a social construct https://openbooks.library.umass.edu/introwgss/chapter/social-constructionism/ I request that the lines "most historians believe he was heterosexual." be changed and just merely state that there is no conclusive evidence either way. Daedrich JJ flfmjg (talk) 15:18, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

What you want is original research WP:OR and what we have to go by is what the WP:RS historians state. Kierzek (talk) 15:32, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

the multiple studies by science and biologists on sexuality should make a strong case for this article being outdated and be removed altogether. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00224499809551913?cookieSet=1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1536504217696082https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/sa-visual/visualizing-sex-as-a-spectrum/ Daedrich JJ flfmjg (talk) 15:57, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

I would point out that nationality is a wholly human social construct. So perhaps we shouldn't say that AH was German? Anyway, "most historians believe he was heterosexual." implies "there is no conclusive evidence either way". Pincrete (talk) 18:16, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

Is this an improvement?

I am in two minds about these changes.

Concerns are broadly twofold. Firstly the previous version clearly distinguished between two definite extended emotional relationships (Eva Braun & Geli Raubal) and a number of others which are - to a greater or lesser extent - merely speculated (though the exact nature of Raubal's relationship with AH is not known, an intense possessiveness on his part is universally acknowledged). The advantage of this distinction is substantial IMO and the linked articles are there for those who want further details. The article is after all about AH's relationships/sexuality, not primarily about those romantically linked to him. The amount of space devoted to, for example Mitford and some others is disproportionate to anything known about her emotional relationship with AH, and much of it is about her, not her & AH.

The second concern is mainly the quality of sourcing now being employed. I'll defer to thers who might know these sources better, but the preent reliance on personal memoirs, is not something I am comfortable with. Pincrete (talk) 07:15, 8 July 2023 (UTC)

I have removed the addition pending the outcome of discussion. I am not in favor of copying unvetted content from other Wikipedia articles into this GA-rated article. Some of the Harvard citations were broken too. We already have a table of possible relationships, and if our readers want any further information about these people, they can click on the wikilinks to the related articles. There's no need to repeat the contents of those articles here, — Diannaa (talk) 12:19, 8 July 2023 (UTC)

I also didn't initially notice that Charlotte Lobjoie & Erna Hanfstaengl went missing with the changes. The former is almost certainly 'fake' and the second dubious, but including them even for the purposes of recording that they are unlikely/v. unlikely is a useful function IMO. The closer I looked at the changes, the less I thought them an improvement, so I endorse the removal. Pincrete (talk) 14:03, 8 July 2023 (UTC)

I see where a lot of verbiage was added, but not an improvement to this GA rated article. Kierzek (talk) 15:05, 8 July 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 September 2023

MARKSEN1 (talk) 18:45, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
Adolf Hitler was never gay

 Not done: Please do not make frivolous requests. Please review WP:BUILDWP. voorts (talk/contributions) 20:18, 28 September 2023 (UTC)