Talk:Second Battle of San Juan 1898

stop changing it to fourth

the only reason this page was changed to fourth is because Tony the Marine Changed it without doing any research on the topic. If all the battles of San Juan are labeled as one, two, three, and so on, this would be the fifth battle of San Juan not the fourth. So please cease changing the name of the engagement. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TJ13090 (talk • contribs) 19:23, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Please read what I wrote on your talk page. I take no position on what the proper name of the article is. But you can not change the name of the page by cut&paste moving. It is improper, and redoing it once an admin has told you not to do so is disruptive. The template I placed on your talk page tells you how to do a proper move of the page. - TexasAndroid (talk) 03:34, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

I was just wondering if anybody knew what the First Battle of San Juan was during Spanish-American War. I was thinking it must be the initial establishing of the blockade and the bombardment of San Juans fortifications. Just curious, please let me know what you all think. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TJ13090 (talk • contribs) 02:40, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

I would like to know why this page has been changed to the Fourth Battle of San Juan. Its rediculous to call it the fourth battle because the other 3 battles did not occur during the Spanish-American war. For example, New Orleans, two battles occurred there (Battle of New Orleans (1815) and The Battle of New Orleans (1862) but we dont call the civil war battle of New Orleans the second battle do we. You only label a battle first second or third if the battles happened in the same war. This is how it has always been. I think the guy who changed it to fourth is merely trying to show off his knowledge of the area instead of actually caring about historical fact. One more thing to the guy who changed this article, The battles of San Juan have the year written after them in the disambiguation page, that is also why you dont rename them first second third or whatever.

I would like to know why this page keeps getting reverted to the Puerto Rican Campaign article, that article is supposed to be a general overview of the campaign itself, and is not supposed to include specific details about each and every battle. User:XavierGreen —Preceding undated comment was added at 02:02, 1 August 2008 (UTC) This page should not be redirected to Third Battle of San Juan 1898 Instead it should remain here. Wikipedia's naming conventions for battles only use second, third, ect. if there are more than one battle at the same location during a war. See Battle of Havana and see the naming section of the article Battle. There were three naval battles at San Juan during the spanish american war, and this is the second of them. XavierGreen (talk) 22:06, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

• Sorry, but your assertion that this was the Second Battle of San Juan is not only wrong, it is a misrepresentation of historical facts. 1st Battle of San Juan = 1595, 2nd Battle of San Juan=1625 and the 3rd Battle of San Juan= 1797. As you yourself have claimed "Wikipedia's naming conventions for battles only use second, third, ect. if there are more than one battle at the same location during a war." There were three previous battles of San Juan before the Spanish-American War, even if some them do not yet have their own articles in Wikipedia. Now, since there were three battles of SanJuan in 1898, you could rename the article "The Second Battle of San Juan of 1898" and this would make more sense. Tony the Marine (talk) 01:20, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

If you look at the title of the battle as i had origonally created it it clearly stated that it was in 1898. The way it is titled currently makes it appear that this was the fourth battle fought at san juan in 1898. See the disambiguation page Battle of Warsaw or Battle of Adrianople (disambiguation) for examples as there have been over a dozen battles fought there.XavierGreen (talk) 00:35, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Sorry Tony the Marine, what that other guy meant is that this is the second battle of San Juan during Americas war with Spain. Try not to get so upset over specifics. Also, if you want to get specific, this would be the fifth battle of San Juan considering the English attacked again in 1598. Try actually researching before you start showing off. XavierGreen is right, it does now appear as though four battles of San Jauan occurred in 1898.—Preceding unsigned comment added by TJ13090 (talk • contribs) 07:05, 17 May 2009 (UTC)