Talk:San Marino in the Eurovision Song Contest/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 18:58, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Good Article review progress box Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

I will start reviewing this soon, probably tomorrow --K. Peake 18:58, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks! Do you have thoughts RE my comment on the article's talk page, above? Grk1011 (talk) 19:10, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Infobox and lead

• 1 in 360 → 1in360 in the infobox
• Mention that the participation from 2011 onward was after they did not participate in 2009 and 2010 due to financial difficulties
• "for the Eurovision Song Contest grand final" → "for the contest's grand final"
• Target 2012, 2013 and 2014 to their respective Eurovision Song Contest articles
• "and achieving their best ever result" → "and achieving their best result to date"
• "was again selected to represent the nation" → "was again set to represent San Marino"
• "and is San Marino's" → "and is the nation's"
• Remove target on 2020 for the second mention
• "set by the EBU." → "set by the European Broadcasting Union (EBU)." with the wikilink
• "vote in the contest" → "vote in the Eurovision Song Contest"

Contest history

• "through their national broadcaster SMRTV." → "through Radiotelevisione della Repubblica di San Marino (SMRTV)." with the target, as we already know SMRTV is the broadcaster
• "to the OGAE Italy Eurovision fanclub" → "to OGAE Italy"
• The voting rights part is not sourced, unless I missed it

Clarified the wording. Grk1011 (talk) 18:14, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

• Target Italy to Italy in the Eurovision Song Contest
• "as "a lot" → "as "[a] lot"
• Shouldn't the first img be on the left, as it looks awkward to have two images aligned to the right in the same section?
• Target first semi-final to Eurovision Song Contest 2008#Semi-final 1
• "Later that year in June," → "In June 2008,"
• "in the 2009 contest" → "in the Eurovision Song Contest 2009"
• "the broadcaster ultimately opted" → "SMRTV ultimately opted"
• "financial reasons preventing" → "financial reasons as preventing"
• [13] should be solely at the end of the para, as it is used for the last two sentences
• Target Austria to Austria in the Eurovision Song Contest
• "and 2013 ("Crisalide (Vola)") failed to qualify San Marino to" → "and 2013 ("Crisalide (Vola)") respectively failed to qualify San Marino for"
• Target first semi-final to Eurovision Song Contest 2014#Semi-final 1

I couldn't find this one. Grk1011 (talk) 19:22, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Must have been something that has since been removed from prose after the responses to my spot checks. --K. Peake 20:53, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

• Wikilink Malmö on the img text
• "giving San Marino their" → "giving them their"
• "to represent the nation" → "to represent San Marino"

Selection process

• Remove target on 2018 contest
• "the SMRTV had selected" → "SMRTV had selected"
• Remove target on 2020 contest
• Remove target on year's contest

Voting

• "{escyr|2009||2009 contest}} through the" → "2009 contest through to the"
• Remove target on 2015 contest
• Remove target on 2016 contest
• The composite score being an alternate option doesn't seem to be directly mentioned, unless I missed something

The Wiwibloggs ref calls it a "composite vote" so I changed the wording to that instead? Grk1011 (talk) 18:14, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

I meant that despite being mentioned, it does not seem to be sourced as an alternative specifically? --K. Peake 20:53, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Added an additional ref. Grk1011 (talk) 21:06, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

• Remove target on 2017 contest
• Remove target on 2019 contest

Contestants

• The languages are not sourced

Added refs for each one, but hopefully eventually I'll be able to find a summary ref.. Grk1011 (talk) 19:22, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

• Maybe change the empty rows to pending?

Related involvement

Heads of delegation

• Img looks good!
• See MOS:TABLECAPTION

Jury members

• See MOS:TABLECAPTION

Commentators and spokespersons

• "their respective spokesperson" → "each respective spokesperson"
• See MOS:TABLECAPTION

Gallery

• Neat addition with this section!

See also

• Good

Notes

• Good

References

• Copyvio score looks decent at 29.6%
• You need to add an archive for ref 8, as that is dead
• Ref 9 should say 2008 in the title, not 2018
• Ref 14 should cite an archive of San Marino's URL, not the Poland one
• Add the language parameter for ref 26
• WP:OVERLINK of European Broadcasting Union on ref 30 and add (EBU) in brackets for consistency–
• Cite ESCToday as publisher instead for ref 37

External links

• Remove this redundant sub-section

This is for the Junior contest. Would there be a more fitting location to bring attention to this or do you believe it is not needed at all? Grk1011 (talk) 18:14, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

There are no links included here, but you should keep the templates below the reflist when the section has been removed... --K. Peake 20:53, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Oh! I was looking at the see also section. Fixed. Grk1011 (talk) 21:06, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Final comments and verdict

•  On hold until all of the issues are fixed, but good luck on getting the main article about the country's participation in the Eurovision Song Contest to GA status! --K. Peake 11:49, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Should be all set. A couple comments/explanations above. Grk1011 (talk) 19:22, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Grk1011 Thank you for the quick response; I have left some replies above! --K. Peake 20:53, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Those two items have been addressed! Grk1011 (talk) 21:06, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Grk1011 ✓ Pass now, very good to have one of your articles become a GA the same day as the review again! --K. Peake 21:13, 17 February 2021 (UTC)