Talk:Samuel Bellamy

Latest comment: 3 years ago by 2603:9000:FF00:8E:75F7:9E61:F857:54F3 in topic Mary Hallett

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Three WIkipedia articles I read do not agree on the part where Bellamy becomes Captain in around 1716. The Robert Teach and Captain Hornigold articles do not agree with this article on when Hornigold was replaced as Captain and by who. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.57.1.28 (talk) 03:16, 22 January 2011 (UTC)Reply

There's a lot of inherently unverifiable information when it comes to these events, which are dated basically on hearsay. Perhaps it would be better to arbitrarily pick one of these dates and use that as a standard for the various other pages, but it would be tricky to determine which one should be the reference. The Cap'n (talk) 22:08, 10 February 2011 (UTC)Reply

  • What about Republic of Pirates? Would that be a reliable 2ndary source? 134.139.22.54 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 01:56, 21 November 2013 (UTC)Reply
The sources in that are based on the same jumble of unreliable primary sources as above. 134.139.22.143 (talk) 02:00, 21 November 2013 (UTC)Reply

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Can someone give at least some info on the portrait? There's nothing on the wikimedia page. Is it Sam Bellamy at all? 178.66.76.218 (talk) 16:09, 17 June 2019 (UTC)Reply

@178.66.76.218: I don't know where did the author take the photo from, but I found this one in this news from The Telegraph, so we can confirm he is Sam Bellamy. Tajotep (talk) 14:13, 21 June 2019 (UTC)Reply
That only makes it very likely that the Telegraph took the picture from here. I tried to verify the portrait and found a very similar picture attributed to James Francis Edward Stuart here. Looking at pictures of James makes it very likely for me that the picture shows him and not Sam Bellamy. Punctulus (talk) 12:19, 3 June 2020 (UTC)Reply
The picture is User:Rambo101's Own work, and thus is a complete work of fiction. As such I'm removing it. Leninator (talk) 19:33, 8 May 2021 (AEST)

Mary Hallett edit

I am a genealogist and a relative of Mary Hallett. She was in fact born in Barnstable but was living in Eastham at the time she met Samuel Bellamy. What we call Wellfleet was at that time an unincorporated village within the town of Eastham. There is a record of the death of a baby boy given the name Samuel whose mother was Mary Hallett in Eastham in 1716. Unfortunately the Barnstable county court house was burned many years ago and court records on her trial are lost. However there is a grave in Eastham for the baby and next to it is the grave of Mary Hallett whose inscription indicates she was born in 1698 and died in 1746. There is no marriage or other children recorded for her at any time. There were no other unmarried or widowed Hallett women of the correct age living in Eastham at the time period with a recorded child who died as a baby. I did find a record of an Elizabeth Bellamy marrying a John Hallett in Barnstable in 1686. Mary's father's name was John. This indicates the strong likelihood that Mary was Sam Bellamy's cousin. Cousin marriage was commonplace on Cape Cod (and still is) at the time. Since this is original research it cannot be included in the article. If someone tells me how to make it possible for this information to be included in the article I would like to pursue that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:9000:FF00:8E:75F7:9E61:F857:54F3 (talk) 04:48, 25 June 2020 (UTC)Reply