Talk:Sally Green

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Victuallers in topic Advise on notability

Advise on notability edit

@Rosguill could you please advise me on how to resolve you questioning the notability of the article. Green is an active an published author who has won multiple awards. Only one of the sources is from the author itself (used as a reference for the country where she lives). Martsniez (talk) 09:20, 2 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

The problem is that none of the cited sources discuss Green outside the context of the Half Bad. Further, with the exception of Great British Life, which looks like an unreliable pay-to-play PR publication, none of the sources give any independent biographical information about Green; interviews are a gray area, but when the interviews are written like the ones currently cited from The Guardian and Writing.ie, all of the substantive information is directly attributed to Green, and stretches the definition of independent. Additionally, while it can be a sign that coverage exists and is likely worth including in the article, awards won that are not themselves Wikipedia-notable do not immediately confer notability.
The kinds of sourcing that I would want to see would be news stories with significant information not sourced directly to a quote from the subject (like this), or scholarly books/papers analyzing the significance of the subject's work (like this) signed, Rosguill talk 19:16, 2 January 2023 (UTC)Reply
I see that the page has been reverted back to the redirect. That is disappointing, I don't really see how the content of this page was any less notable than say https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_S._A._Corey, also when looking at the type of references used. Those are also news articles, interviews and awards. Martsniez (talk) 09:02, 9 January 2023 (UTC)Reply
Hi. Just because an article exists on Wikipedia does not mean it is necessarily a good model to base a new article on. This is called WP:OSE, "Other stuff exists". Wikipedia is monitored by volunteers, so it's not unusual for an inappropriate article to slip through the cracks. Onel5969 TT me 10:54, 9 January 2023 (UTC)Reply
I disagree and I have moved this back to main space. There are sufficient notable sources and our prime objective is to build an encyclopedia and for that we need to allow artickes to develop. Victuallers (talk) 12:53, 11 January 2023 (UTC)Reply