Talk:Saint Nicholas Day

Rute

A 'Rute' is not a 'branch' ('Ast' in German) but a stick or rod, the implication being that it is used for corporal punishment (like a birch). Have updated article in the light of this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.81.133.139 (talk) 11:10, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

Dec. 6 and Dec. 19

This sentence "Saint Nicholas' Day, observed on December 6 (in Western Christian countries) and 19 December (in Eastern Christian countries), is the feast day of Saint Nicholas" is misleading. It is observed on Dec 6 by those who follow the Gregorian calendaerafweardweqfqwefqwefr, and on Dec 19 by those who follow the Julian calendar. Roman Catholics in Russia observe on Dec. 6, and Russian Orthodox in the US observe on Dec. 19. If there is no concern, I will change the text. --Richardson mcphillips (talk) 14:12, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

This is not correct. All countries follow Gregorian Calender. Saint Nicholas' Day is observed on December 6 (in Western Christian countries) and 19 December (in Eastern Christian countries) both dates in Gregorian. And if what you are saying is correct then 19 Dec Julian would be 1 Jan Gregorian. For example (from the wiki) "In Ukraine, St Nicholas (Mykolay) visits all children during the night and brings presents (18–19 December [O.S. 5–6 December])." Is correct. Julian 6 dec, Gregorian 19 dec). The sentence "celebrated on 6 December (Gregorian calendar, 19 December on Julian)" is misleading as it gives the impression that east and west celebrate on the same day but date that day different. This is not the case. The original text was correct. Please revert. BartYgor (talk) 17:08, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

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Requested move 7 December 2018

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The result of the move request was: not moved no prejudice to speedy renomination with alternate proposal mooted by other users, but closing as not moved considering that they all !voted oppose. (closed by non-admin page mover) SITH (talk) 15:06, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

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Saint Nicholas Day → Saint Nicholas's Day – I moved to the location that basic English grammar would dictate, and had considerable support for it at WP:ERRORS when trying to avoid such a blatant display of illiteracy appearing on the front page of the project in a featured position, but despite the clear consensus gathered, an admin on Main Page reverted to make it look to the world as though Wikipedia is operated by those who cannot cope with primary school English. So we have to use this mechanism to avoid presenting ourselves as idiots. Kevin McE (talk) 17:25, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose and close. There is no request here. If Kevin is willing to cooperate appropriately, then he can reopen the RM. © Tbhotch^™ (en-2.5). 17:55, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

The request is clear, move to the version dictated by simple English grammar. There is no man called Nicholas Day who has been canonised, it is the Feast of St Nicholas. It is arrogant nonsense to say that there is no request. Kevin McE (talk) 18:22, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

The amount of attacks said in this page alone are enough to not care anymore about what you have to offer. Still opposing due to lack of request and evidence. © Tbhotch^™ (en-2.5). 04:47, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose. Looking through the sources in the article, it appears this is the WP:COMMONNAME. I don’t really see how this is any different than Martin Luther King Jr. Day or Columbus Day. Calidum 23:21, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose. As the article titles policy states, Article titles are based on how reliable English-language sources refer to the article's subject. If Kevin can provide the sources that show the name of the observance is Saint Nicholas's (or Nicholas') Day, then let's move it. Otherwise, it should stay where it is. —howcheng {chat} 00:34, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
• Comment - People who can read and write also make spelling and grammar errors, in fact I would wager that close to 100% of literate people do, so labelling an incorrect use of grammar 'illiterate' is incorrect. Secondly, intelligent people also make spelling and grammar mistakes, so there is no danger that having this supposedly incorrect usage would present 'us' as idiots. Thirdly, there is no such thing as a standard english grammar, there is only common usage, as the article uses the commonly used term, it seems facetious to suggest that the title is incorrect. Additionally, as there is no defined correct english grammar, there is also no definition of 'basic' or 'simple' English grammar, so the requester's use of these terms is also incorrect and they are used as weasel words. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.165.122.39 (talk) 00:57, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose. And even if we put in the apostrophe, it should probably be "Nicholas'". Rreagan007 (talk) 07:28, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

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St Nicholas

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