Talk:SB Lady Daphne

Adding a History

I've been wanting to write a history section based off the 'History' content on the official Lady Daphne website. However it's been very difficult finding sources anywhere for any of the information. Any suggestions would be very welcome. Jtaylor100 (talk) 16:01, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

Copy of draft page

I have moved the content of the draft page here- to keep all the material together.

{| {{Infobox ship begin|infobox caption=SB ''Lady Daphne''}}
{{Infobox ship image
| Ship image=Lady Daphne.jpg
| Ship image size = 300px
| Ship caption=''SB Lady Daphne'' in full sail
}}
{{Infobox ship career
| Ship country=[[United Kingdom]]
| Ship flag=
| Ship name=Lady Daphne
| Ship owner=Sea Laurel Ltd
| Ship operator=Sea Laurel Ltd
| Ship route=
| Ship ordered=David J Bradley, [[Rochester, Kent|Rochester]]{{cn}}
| Ship builder=Short Bros Ltd, Backfields, [[Rochester, Kent|Rochester]]{{cn}}
| Ship yard number=
| Ship way number=
| Ship laid down=
| Ship launched=
| Ship commissioned=1921
| Ship decommissioned=
| Ship status=Under restoration
| Ship notes=
}}
{{Infobox ship characteristics
| Ship tonnage=
| Ship length={{convert|90.8|ft|m|abbr=on}}
| Ship beam=
| Ship height=
| Ship draught={{convert|5|ft|m|abbr=on}}
| Ship draft=
| Ship depth=
| Ship decks=
| Ship propulsion=Sail and diesel engine
| Ship sail plan=mainsail, topsail, mizzen, foresail, jib
| Ship speed=
| Ship range=
| Ship capacity=
| Ship crew=
| Ship troops=
| Ship notes=
}}
|}

SB Lady Daphne is a preserved [[Thames Sailing Barge]], built in [[Rochester, Kent|Rochester]] and completed in 1923<ref name="fscooper">A Handbook of Sailing Barges, F S Cooper and John Chancellor</ref>.

== History ==

David J Bradley (Sr) took over Thomas Watson (Shipping) from Thomas Watson. His sons, the brothers David J Bradley and Stanley Bradley also went into business working as barge owners with Thomas Watson (Shipping).{{cn}} Thomas Watson (Shipping) had a tradition of naming vessels prefaced by "Lady". Sailing Barge Lady Daphne was commissioned in 1921 to be built by Short Bros on behalf of David and Stanley.{{cn}} When the barge was launched in 1923, David named it after his newly born first child, Daphne.

The Lady Daphne transferred to Lillian Bradley on the death of her husband David in 1928.{{cn}} Lillian sold Lady Daphne to R&W Paul, the maltsters, in 1937.{{cn}} Thomas Watson (Shipping) ultimately owned 55 sailing barges and 39 coasters along the Medway and Thames.{{cn}} The firm closed in 2000.{{cn}} While technically going through a number of R&W Paul companies, Lady Daphne was with the maltsters till her sale to Taylor Woodrow and St Katharine's Yacht Haven in 1973.{{cn}} Lady Daphne was sold to Elisabeth and Michael Mainelli in 1996 and later sold to Samantha Howe and Andrew Taylor in 2017.

Lady Daphne was known as the "lucky Lady Daphne"{{cn|reason=According to who?}} for an extraordinary incident. On Boxing Day 1927 the skipper was washed overboard and two crew abandoned her off the Cornish coast, but Lady Daphne, guided by the skipper's canary, sailed herself through the rocks of the Scilly Isles onto a few tens of yards of safe sand.<ref name="fscooper" /> In the 1920's she acquired a reputation as "the fastest barge in the three channels".{{cn|reason=Accoding to who?}} Lady Daphne has been associated for a quarter of a century with the redevelopment of St Katharine's by the Tower and is a famous London fixture{{cn|According to who?}} - the Queen Mother has visited her{{cn}}; numerous articles have covered her sailing ability{{cn|reason=Which ones?}}; she has appeared in plenty of film and television shows{{cn|reason=Which ones?}}.

Getting going

The text above would be a copyvio- if I didn't suspect that it was posted by the original author. Tricky, so we can start by looking at the other references which are very full, then we can paraphrase the dodgy text- copyright does not apply to facts, just their artistic presentation. On y va. --ClemRutter (talk) 16:22, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Confused reference maintenance tags

I am confused on how you think this should be referenced- we have most of the facts on the Historic Ship site and most of it in the Underhill book- which is the classic reference. Splattering it with cn tags seems to invite over referencing- tell me what you are trying to achieve. And Merry Xmas in the meantime. --ClemRutter (talk) 19:43, 25 December 2018 (UTC)