Talk:Ryan Roberts (American football)/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs) 21:10, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

Hello, I am planning on reviewing this article for GA Status, over the next couple of days. Thank you for nominating the article for GA status. I hope I will learn some new information, and that my feedback is helpful.

If nominators or editors could refrain from updating the particular section that I am updating until it is complete, I would appreciate it to remove a edit conflict. Please address concerns in the section that has been completed above (If I've raised concerns up to references, feel free to comment on things like the lede.)

I generally provide an overview of things I read through the article on a first glance. Then do a thorough sweep of the article after the feedback is addressed. After this, I will present the pass/failure. I may use strikethrough tags when concerns are met. Even if something is obvious why my concern is met, please leave a message as courtesy.

Best of luck! you can also use the {{done}} tag to state when something is addressed. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)}

Please let me know after the review is done, if you were happy with the review! Obviously this is regarding the article's quality, however, I want to be happy and civil to all, so let me know if I have done a good job, regardless of the article's outcome.

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Prose

Lede

• "American football defensive end who played" -> American football player who played as a defensive end for..." To avoid WP:SEAOFBLUE. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:28, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
  • Ok.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:53, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
• Lede is incredibly barebones. I feel like we could include something about how he did as a player and what years he was active at the very least. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:28, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
  • Done.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:56, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

General

• Roberts was born on August 11, 1980, in Camden, New Jersey, and earned three varsity letters in gridiron football at Haddonfield Memorial High School. - considering there is no personal life section, is there no info about their upbringing, or anything outside football? Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:39, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
  • This is a biography of very marginal notability. I've cobbled together what I can. It is particularly hard with Notre Dame athletes because they were not part of a league during this era. When I researched this article nothing else about personal/early life really seemed to be encyclopedic. I don't believe anything else about his family was mentioned. I'll do a quick look back.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:00, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
• Roberts considered in-state Princeton University or nearby University of Pennsylvania - maybe an Americanism, but I have no idea what this means Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:39, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
  • Maybe the information is more clearly conveyed now.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:28, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
• Maybe link soccer. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:39, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
  • Done.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:29, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
• So I've had another look through, here's what I got:
• You probably no longer need the citations in the infobox as they are in the prose.Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:30, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

  Is there an WP:MOS issue in which things can't be cited in both the infobox and the prose? I think the infobox is the most likely place many readers would go for this content and thus think it might be better to keep citations right here.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 12:52, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

  Indeed there is - WP:INFOBOXCITE/ WP:MINREF. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 07:53, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

• I know you link it in the lede, but you probably should link Notre Dame in the body on first use. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:30, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
  • OK.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 20:25, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
• Following his January 13, 2000, surgery, - surgery in...Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:30, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

Review meta comments

• I'll begin the review as soon as I can! If you fancy returning the favour, I have a list of nominations for review at WP:GAN and WP:FAC, respectively. I'd be very grateful if you were to complete one of these if you get time. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 21:10, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
  • As it was just such a little issue keeping up promotion, I've gone ahead and made the changes necessary. Happy to promote now Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:30, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.