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Sydney Royal Easter Show edit
How can the English Royal Show be the inspiration for the Sydney Royal Easter Show show when it began in 1823, 17 years before the English one?[1] Ozdaren 16:34, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
- I reverted your edit saying the Sydney show predated the Royal Show. The reference which you used http://www.rasnsw.com.au/membershistory.htm clearly states the FORERUNNER of the Easter show was the Parramatta Fair which ran from 1823 until being discontinued in 1834 and that the Sydney Show got formal Royal billing in 1891. Lots of agricultural shows probably could be traced back to the medieval times. But this article is about a specific "Royal Show." All that said, I'm always grateful when this article gets any attention. :-)Americasroof 18:30, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
- The section in the article claiming the English Royal Show is the inspiration for the Royal Easter Show seems more like speculation than fact as there are no references/citations. The fact that the Parramatta Fair ceased for a small period of time does not mean that the concept of a show was lost only to be picked up by the concept of the English RAS being transplanted to New South Wales. The reason the show in Sydney was given the title Royal Show was to reflect the royal patronage of the Show Society, the title royal was added to the already existing show. If you can present any direct references to the Sydney Royal Easter show being inspired by the English Royal Show then I am happy to change my opinion. (BTW.It's a shame the English Show did not grow in size compared to the Australian shows.) Ozdaren 01:41, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
- A similar concept occurs for the Royal (Melbourne) Show History of the RASV. The original show started around the same time as the English Royal Show. Your comment about early fairs is a good one, the concept of fairs/shows being well known in contemporary British/Australian society is quite right. This therefore makes the possibility of shows starting with no direct English RAS inspiration most likely. Ozdaren 01:53, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
- This is a good discussion. The phrase "inspiration" is misleading and inaccurate and we need to change it. A royal show is one that has been sanctioned by the British monarch. I wrote the original article to explain the name of the American Royal in the United States which derives its name basically because they thought it sounded cool. The true royal shows in the British commonwealth have an entirely different history. Again thanks. Agriculture articles tend to get little attention on wikipedia. Americasroof 02:28, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
- A similar concept occurs for the Royal (Melbourne) Show History of the RASV. The original show started around the same time as the English Royal Show. Your comment about early fairs is a good one, the concept of fairs/shows being well known in contemporary British/Australian society is quite right. This therefore makes the possibility of shows starting with no direct English RAS inspiration most likely. Ozdaren 01:53, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
- The section in the article claiming the English Royal Show is the inspiration for the Royal Easter Show seems more like speculation than fact as there are no references/citations. The fact that the Parramatta Fair ceased for a small period of time does not mean that the concept of a show was lost only to be picked up by the concept of the English RAS being transplanted to New South Wales. The reason the show in Sydney was given the title Royal Show was to reflect the royal patronage of the Show Society, the title royal was added to the already existing show. If you can present any direct references to the Sydney Royal Easter show being inspired by the English Royal Show then I am happy to change my opinion. (BTW.It's a shame the English Show did not grow in size compared to the Australian shows.) Ozdaren 01:41, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
The Adelaide Royal Show seems to have begun at the same time 1840. Although it only began to be called the Royal Show when the Ag. society running it was granted royal patronage, the show is the same continuous event. Ozdaren 02:38, 16 August 2007 (UTC)