Talk:Robert Abercromby (Jesuit)

Latest comment: 13 years ago by Laforgue in topic Birth/death date

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Robert Abercromby died in Warmia Ermland, in Prussia, incorrectly changed to 'Poland' by wikipedia User:Proud Pomerania. Records for Heilsberg or other places in Ermland -Warmia show imperial status

Heilsberg Epicopate Warmia in Prussia map of 1755


At the time he died (1615) Warmia belonged to Poland. Please read the relevant articles on Braniewo and Warmia. ProudPomeranian 21:18, 20 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

I hope you don't mind, that I prefer reading and trusting primary sources such as the distinguished historian Petrus Bertius (Peter Berti(i)) and the information on the Rerum Germanicarum Holy Roman Empire, who recorded and restated in 1615 the complete history of all of Germania. I have about as much faith in the information of wikipedia articles Braniewo and Warmia as the following article shows [1] You and the other POV partisans feel free to keep adding incorrect information all you want to. As you might have noticed I will not get dragged into 'your revert war game. I post info on talk and I am grateful that you corrected some of your incorrect entries yourself. Now I would like you to read the above posted information links. Have a good day - Labbas 20 September 2006



Your faith is not relevant. Work by modern historians is relevant. You should be ashamed. You were bombarded with about 10 encyclopedias, books by historians, scientific papers and atlases as sources on Warmia history at Talk:Comenius by User:Friendly Neighbour and your only reply was that the atlas is too cheap to be good. It's hard to guess whether you are simply a German nationalist fanatic (as it seems) or an elaborate joker. ProudPomeranian 05:44, 21 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

Merge of talk page content edit

The following was merged from Talk:Robert Abrecromby.

Merge with Robert Abercromby ? edit

This article looks like it has the best content (haven't checked its references - it just "looks" better) but the name doesn't Google as well as Robert Abercromby. I propose that I combine the two and redirect Robert Abrecromby to Robert Abercromby to pick up stragglers. Ttiotsw 21:39, 23 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

Done. Carcharoth 18:46, 6 May 2007 (UTC)Reply

End, merged content. Carcharoth 18:48, 6 May 2007 (UTC)Reply

Abercromby and Poland edit

I'm afraid I can't write personally about Abercrombie's ties with Poland due to my bad English grammar. But if somebody is interested in it, here's quite good source about Scotts in Poland: [2]. He lived in Braniewo many long years (1564-1587), ant the city was the most imoprtant centre of jesuit scholarship and contrreformaton in Poland and one of the most important in Europe. 83.24.100.192 (talk) 00:41, 6 April 2008 (UTC)Reply

Birth/death date edit

re [3] and [4] I don't know which is correct, but the Catholic Encyclopedia source cited in the bibliography gives April 27 as the death date not August 19. So we should probably go with the source cited, unless someone can come up with another one. -- œ 02:39, 10 March 2011 (UTC)Reply

  • Well, I believe more to father Ludwik Grzebień, the most important expert on history of the Jesuits in Poland, than the old CE. Grzebień gives "circa 1536" as the birtdate and "5 X 1613" as the deathdate: [5]. Laforgue (talk) 20:36, 10 March 2011 (UTC) This "August 19" is the date of joinng the Jesuit Order given by Grzebień. Laforgue (talk) 20:40, 10 March 2011 (UTC)Reply