Talk:Robbie Findley

Robbie Findley moved to China?

I got a news that Robbie Findley had been signed a contract with Shaanxi Chanba.Is that true?121.33.190.141 (talk) 13:06, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

No.--EchetusXe 23:57, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 88.110.21.239, 23 December 2010

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Please change calling Findley a "soccer" player to a football player, as it is the correct terminology for English football, which Robbie Findley is now a part of. Also it should say he plays for Nottingham Forest Football Club, not "team". Team implies he is a frequent member of the starting 11, which of course he is not. Thank you 88.110.21.239 (talk) 21:54, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Regardless of where he plays, he is American and so "soccer" is the appropiate team. However, I will change the word "team" to "club", as I agree with you on that element. Regards, GiantSnowman 22:09, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

I humbly disagree, and think 'football' is more appropriate, so I'm changing tyhat too, in accordance with WP:BRD - ie, if you disagree, feel free to revert and discuss further here. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  22:20, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

 Done

Football vs. soccer

An American playing for an English team - so what do we call the sport? It is my view that it should be 'soccer', as describing an American as a 'football player' creates massive confusion, as the natural assumption would be that he plays gridiron. 'Soccer' is unambiguous and clear. GiantSnowman 22:52, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

based on the context football seems appropriate Dec 23, 2010 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Troyeseffigy (talk • contribs) 23:13, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

What context? Haven't I just explained why the context doesn't mean football should be used...? GiantSnowman 23:27, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

We could just refer to the sport in its fullname - association football - to avoid any and all issues...? GiantSnowman 23:31, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

He plays for the United States men's national soccer team, this should definitely override Nottingham Forest F.C. (football club) in my view. I think that it is fair to rule that those in the category of 'American soccer players' should be referred to as soccer players rather than footballers.--EchetusXe 23:56, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

'Soccer player' per, amongst others, Clint Dempsey, Bobby Convey and Brian McBride. J Mo 101 (talk) 00:13, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Well, when I said BRD in edit summary, I meant it; this is one of those arguments, that could go on forever.

He is English, so I'm sure he'd tell English folks that he played football. Of course, the US press would call it soccer. So, meh.

Please take note that David Beckham is described as an "English footballer", despite his current location.

Of course, I'm English; also, I don't care. I choose to !vote as 'football', but I defer to consensus, with no hard feelings.  Chzz  ►  00:50, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Surely your Beckham example has weakened your own position? Both Beckham as 'footballer' and Findley as 'soccer player' show that nationality is preferable to location?

I'm also English, but have spent quite a bit of time in North America - in my experience, if you talk about 'football' over there, they expect only one thing - NFL. Soccer is soccer, nothing else. GiantSnowman 01:43, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, I do see what you mean. Then again, he is playing for Notts Forest football club.

So - how about that suggested compromise above, of Association football?

Otherwise...as above, I'm fine with whatever.  Chzz  ►  16:40, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

• He plays association football. Using the full name of the sport probably will eliminate most of the issue. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 04:28, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

I !vote for continuing the use of "soccer" in this article rather than changing it. I doubt we want to try to make a precedent that every time a player is exported from Major League Soccer to a better European league that we have to "update" the article replacing all instances of "soccer" with "football" or "association football". Seems like unnecessary churn at the very least and an irrational application of WP:ENGVAR at worst. Just my thoughts though. --SkotyWA^T_C 07:01, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

Soccer player is more appropriate, as he is American. Besides that, soccer is an unambiguous word. --Carioca (talk) 21:42, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

• He's played his entire career in the States to date. He's an established USA international. It seems likely that the majority of reliable sources covering his career at this time will use "soccer", so there's nothing wrong with using it here. As mentioned above, if he gets sufficient coverage in his English career to make the most commonly-used term uncertain, it should be trivial to use "association football" once for context and then simply avoid any glaring Americanisms / Britishisms in the rest of the article. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward: not at work) - talk 11:52, 27 December 2010 (UTC)